SC Association of Reptile Keepers
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SC Association of Reptile & Exotic Animal Keepers
History of the Organization
The history of SCARK is the story of young children growing up with a fascination and love of reptiles. We are normal people, living normal lives, who have had a love and passion for these amazing creatures since childhood. Many of us started out catching snakes, turtles and lizards around our neighborhood ponds and streams. We read everything we could so that we could learn to properly house and care for our newfound charges.
As we grew into adulthood our passions and desire to learn everything we could about these animals grew as well. Some of us branched off into exotics and captive breeding projects. We became aware of conservation issues and sought to educate any that would listen to the plight of these magnificent but misunderstood animals. Our knowledge and husbandry methods grew proportionately in scope and sophistication. We came to realize that with issues of rapid habitat destruction being largely ignored, many of these animals might not survive outside captive breeding projects.
In the spring of 2004, animal rights activists saw an opportunity to exploit tragic circumstances involving a cobra envenomation in Laurens County, SC to push forward their agenda to get animals out of private hands. Through a local politician's sponsorship Adam Taylor, a bill written and endorsed by the Animal Protection Institute (API) a proposed bill banning most all reptiles and many other exotic animals as well was sent to our state legislature for consideration/adoption.,. Bill 4403 was put forward as a solution to a public safety crisis that was nonexistant. Using fear and cultural bias against many of these animals the AR movement attempted to make inroads into our state. Once they are established what will they want to ban next… livestock farming, hunting, fishing, and traditional household pets? SCDNR was immediately notified and through much discussion it was felt that the bill would not recieve their support due to manpower and budget constraints supported by common sense. A get the word out campaign was started and this information was made public to concerned groups/individuals statewide. Once the word was out the phone was nonstop wringing and my email incoming box overflowing with animal lovers and concerned people offering asking for help and suggestions. I contacted Rep Adam Taylor immediately. Members of our thinktank also contacted him and once apprised of who he had been counseled by he thoughtfully and wisely withdrew support from the bill he was talked into sponsoring. Score one for our side right? The very next year the bill (prefiled) was sponsored by State Representative Thomas as Bill 959. Once again the wheels of this organization were turning enlisting the same professionals and others to once again send this nonsense bill to the scrapheap. But our foes are undeterred and without conscience. It will resurface again and again until they get their way or get the message that we will not go quietly into the night. They must be met with the same ferocity that they themselves exhibit until their final defeat. At the same time the bill was being introduced by Senator Garwood in North Carolina and suddenly we were fighting a war on two fronts. I was called by the top reptile people in North Carolina asking me to talk at the North Carolina State Fairgrounds in Raleigh in March 2005. I graciously accepted the invitation to speak and was advised that a representative of the NC state leislature would be present for my presentation. That evening after the presentation I addressed a group of concerned individuals (including Andrew Wyatt and Dean Ripa) with what would become the nucleus of the North Carolina Association of Reptile Keepers and became an Advisory Consultant to what is now known as NCARK..
South Carolina Association of Reptile & Exotic Animal Keepers
Mission:
The South Carolina Association of Reptile Keepers (SCARK) promotes private ownership of reptiles, the establishment of responsible/professional statewide husbandry standards, programs/platform for educating the public, and conservation through captive breeding projects designated to have little or no impact on wild populations. We advocate a code of ethics, high standards for care, and strict safety protocols. We endorse training and mentoring to elevate keeper skills. Providing resources for locating veterinarians, rescue/rehabilitation centers, and antivenin is our social responsibility. We sponsor community outreach programs to break down barriers of misunderstanding and educate the public as well as the legislature about how these animals can enrich the quality of life in this state. Rapid habitat destruction threatens many reptiles here in SC and around the world. We can show how conservation through captive breeding is part of the solution to this problem. Our overall strategy is to aid South Carolina in elevating the level of responsibility and sophistication at which our keepers are working, while educating the public to the facts surrounding these misrepresented animals.
Position Statement:
There are some agencies/institutions/individuals that see themselves as the only ones qualified to keep many of the reptiles that professional members of SCARK work with routinely. They argue that these animals are inherently dangerous, difficult to maintain, and pose a threat to the general public. In reality the husbandry requirements for reptiles are much less demanding than those for dogs, cattle or horses. Reptiles also have a much better track record as far as public safety. Many more people get hurt or killed by dogs in the State of SC every year than all the captive reptiles combined in the history of the state. Statistics have proven over and over again that whitetail deer, cattle and horses are by far the most dangerous . There have been no confirmed deaths on record by someone elses pet reptile in South Carolina. Cattle and horses have killed dozens of people in South Carolina and no one is trying to ban them from private ownership. Most reptiles are easy to care for and are no significant public safety risk, therefore, a responsible keeper should be able to keep and breed the animals he/she has come to know and love. We will challenge any attempt by bureaucrats and/ or academic elites to monopolize work with reptiles by stating that the citizens of SC are unqualified to work with these animals. The level of expertise of SCARK members equals or surpasses that of agencies state or private who oppose responsible reptile ownership. We have a larger more diverse pool of talent and experience to draw from.
There are others that are ideologically opposed to the ownership of any animals. They think that everyone should be a vegetarian as a matter of law. They believe it is wrong to farm livestock for food. They are against hunting, fishing and trapping. They want all use of animals and animal products to be made illegal. They are even against people keeping animals as pets. These ideologues are well organized and funded at a national level. They have made inroads with the legislatures of many states. Their template for political action begins with an animal related tragedy. They will exploit the visceral emotion and fear generated by media coverage to manipulate affected legislators into sponsoring a bill that was written by the Animal Protection Institute (API) and modified by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). SC Bill 959 (formerly 4403) is a variation on this bill. This legislation is a seriously flawed blanket ban on many animals. These activists know that they can’t stop people from farming livestock, hunting, fishing, or keeping traditional pets, so they go after animals that aren’t so widely accepted within our culture. They shy away from the facts and capitalize on longstanding stereotypes, cultural bias and fear. They don’t believe private individuals should have the right to work with any animals and they are not above using extreme measures to frighten people into accepting their positions. These extremists advocate euthanasia of perfectly healthy animals as long as it means keeping them out of private hands.
We believe that it is part of our constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to keep and breed reptiles. It is our life’s passion, and for some, our livelihood. It is a huge responsibility to keep or breed an animal in captivity. A responsibility we are committed to. Our Code of Ethics guides all of our decisions and actions. We have created standards for the caging, husbandry and security of our animals that equal or surpass the standards of most zoos. We enforce strict safety protocols to protect the health of our keepers and the public. We maintain ready access to the finest emergency medical care, vets, rehabilitators and private sources of antivenin. Because we are so committed to the right to keep these animals, we feel it is our obligation to police ourselves. Individuals involved in unsound practices, abuse, or any danger to the public will quickly be reported to the proper authorities. There are laws on the books to stop anyone that can be shown to be creating a dangerous or abusive situation. With rights come responsibilities. We take our responsibilities seriously.
SCARK represents a league of professionals doctors, scientists, professors, teachers, biologists, conservationists, public officials, herpetologists, herpetoculturists, and other animal rehabbers/caretakers).We have acted in the capacity as Advisory Consultants that has a long and proud record of working with the state legislature for fair and reasonable animal legislation in South th Carolina. We have worked diligently with the state and their agents to improve and enhance a positive experience with these magnificent animals. We are not inflexible, but we will not be intimidated by inflammatory rhetoric. So-called “expert” opinion or “potential dangers” that cannot be supported by facts in evidence will be exposed as propaganda. We support science by a preponderance of the evidence. Our Code of Ethics, Husbandry Standards and Safety Protocols will provide a powerful model and work as an invaluable tool to insure responsible private ownership throughout SC. We can provide training and mentoring programs, as well as care sheets and other valuable resources across the state. We have worked side by side with SCDNR and the local SPCA’s in an Advisory capacity and assisted them in many successful campaigns designed to put both domestic and exotic pet ownership in their proper perspectives. A positive working relationship with the state is integral to the future of private ownership in SC.
Community outreach continues be an ongoing dynamic effort. Together with many other conservation and education oriented groups within SC we work to dispel common myths surrounding these animals. Educating people to the facts and encouraging positive interaction with these fascinating creatures will reveal their important role in the world and enrich our lives in the process. Rapid habitat destruction threatens these animals in SC and worldwide. Some animals may not survive outside of captive breeding projects. We are indeed fortunate that state agencies in SC have extended their hands in friendship and partnership with many of this organizations professionals. SCDNR is at the forefront in recognizing that you can’t effectively protect these animals in the wild without protecting their natural habitat. State zoos, often are burdened by cumbersome bureaucracies, conflicts of interest, limited budgets, and cannot possibly work with all of the species at risk. That is why it does not make sense to keep the unlimited resources marshaled by numerous private interests from being directly involved in the conservation of these animals.
Our vision of the future is one in which SCARK continues the positive working relationship with state officials while keeping a watchful eye on national endeavors to by Eco-terrorists to force their skewed agendas down the throats of the unprepared. The state will not be able to accomplish this task on its own. The misinformed citizens of SC will never authorize the funds necessary to effectively and fairly regulate, what is in reality, a matter of personal responsibility. The professional members of SCARK encourage personal responsibility through education and mentoring. SCARK has the tools and resources necessary to teach and motivate people to properly care for and take responsibility for these animals.
SCARK has put together a team of top experts. We have Biologists, Educators, Herpetologists, Herptoculturists, Naturalists, Veterinarians, Zoo Keepers and Hobbyists who contribute their knowledge, experience, and time to ensure that the reptiles we love are well taken care of, safely secured, and continue to remain in private hands. We have successfully organized and activated reptile professionals and enthusiasts from every corner of the state. We represent a large group of voting citizens that are very concerned about our constitutional rights. We are devoted to our animals and have much to contribute to our fellow citizens, state agencies, and the science of reptile husbandry. We believe the conservation of these tragically misunderstood creatures is paramount. There is no public safety problem with captive reptiles in the State of SC. There is a public perception problem. Antiquated stereotypes must be exposed for what they are… myth. Ideologues cannot be allowed to perpetuate these myths unchallenged. Public perception will be changed through education. The facts support the truth; there has never been a public safety problem with reptiles in this state. With SCARK’s support of responsible private ownership, there never will be.
Now is the time to join SCARK! Don't wait until it's too late!
If you are concerned about your rights to keep reptiles and or exotic animals being placed in jeopardy by extremest groups and misguided politicians you are urged to join SCARK. We will keep you informed of the latest groundbreaking legislative proposals. We will find out who, what, when, where, and together develop a battleplan to overcome the fear and misgivings generated by the misrepresentations of these groups. We will represent the best interests of both the keeper and the kept.. We will defend your rights!
To this end we need the help of likeminded individuals to champion our message of education and advocacy throughout South Carolina. With your support the state legislature will have no choice but to listen to the will of its citizens. The animal rights movement would like to force their extremist agenda on the citizens of South Carolina. They rely on fear and prejudice to make their case. With your help we will expose them for the zealots they are. Join us in our fight against this all out assualt on our rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness in our chosen careers/hobbies..
There are two membership levels:
Individual Membership ($35) receive quarterly newsletter receive SCARK t-shirt Contributing Membership ($100) receive quarterly newsletter receive SCARK t-shirt position on policy advisory panel To join us, please fill out our membership application and send appropriate membership dues. We will send you one of our beautiful SCARK T-shirts.
Note: You do not have to be a South Carolina resident to join SCARK. We helped our brothers in North Carolina organize NCARK and successfully fight against the same legislative proposal recently. We will gladly accept support from all who believe in our mission.
You can download an application from the following link:
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/showfilepage/5754
SCARK's website address is www.SCArk.org and should be functional soon. For questions please contact Roark Ferguson at 843-207-7200.
Thanks for your support!
Roark Ferguson
Director Roark's Reptile Safari
President SHHS's South Carolina Chapter
President SCARK
SC Association of Reptile Keepers
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by RepFan on February 16, 2007
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Roark,
Outstanding article, organization and effort on your part. I am very impressed with the organization and it's statements. This will be a great tool for all reptile enthusiasts and like minded individuals to have to let their collective voices be heard in unison . There is strength in numbers and now you have given us a resource that is able to centralize and unify our masses so that we can make more of an concentrated impact on the issues that can determine the livelihood of our hobby. Much thanks to you and all parties involved that helped make the SCARK a reality.
Keep Fighting the Good Fight,
Todd
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by MoccasinMan on February 16, 2007
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The much anticipated official unvieling of SCARK is finally here! Roark and I have worked long and hard to bring this sister organization of NC Association of Reptile Keepers to the state of SC. Expect the same no nonsense hard hitting style you have come to expect from NCARK. The emphasis will be on animal welfare, caging & husbandry standards, public safety and conservation through captive breeding.
As many of you know Roark was involved in helping start NCARK. We are tickled to be able to return the favor. Help us establish SCARK as a real force in SC...
Join Us & Help Protect Your Rights!
Thank you for your dedication and commitmant to make this possible Roark!
Andrew Wyatt
President
NC Association of Reptile Keepers
www.NCARK.org
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by atheris on February 23, 2007
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Roark,
This is a great idea and I am glad to see that you guys have taken the time and effort to put this into action. I have not been very active lately in the herp world but I am joining this and will do what I can to ensure that we all are able to continue our enjoyment of working with reptiles. Hello to everyone out there!
Mardi Snipes
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by Cro on February 24, 2007
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Mardi, great to see you here again!
Roark, it is great that you have SCARK set up.
I have snail mailed a membership to you.
Is there anyway that you can put a PayPal link up?
I am afraid that a lot of folks will not take the trouble to print out the application and then mail it in. But if they can sign up online, they are much more likely to follow through.
Best of Luck to you in fighting the good fight.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by bigsnakedaddy on February 25, 2007
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Thanks for joining John. Good to hear from you Mardi. The paypal address is Bigsnakedaddy@sc.rr.com and is listed on the downloadable application form. You can also go to www.reptilesafari.org and click on the donation button at bottom right hand corner of the home page. You can pay by paypal or any major credit card. Just put joining SCARK as the subject. Yesterday here at the Great Upstate Pet Expo we were verbally assualted by people claiming association with PETA and the HSUS. These people had an agenda and went around to all the other wildlife and dog groups and tried to turn them against me. They were vocal, disruptive and downright illogical. They argued the most ridiculous nonsense. One particularly abrasive woman claimed to be a school teacher and kept arguing that my spectacled caimen was an alligator that had to be abused because it was not the right color for an alligator and called SCDNR to the scene. Of course I cooperate with all legitimate agencies and have permits to keep lligators and also help DNR move them in emergency situations. After satisfying the DNR agents request for qualifying info the agent departed the premises. The 3 stooges started up as soon as he left and no action was taken to shut down our exhibit. One lady (alleged schoolteacher) kept calling me a liar and was particularly confrontational. This is a wildlife show where I am speaking and no reptiles are offered for sale or on display in the building other than my very professional display. This woman believes or tried to convince others that the animal would die without being in water 24 hours per day and should not have its mouth taped shut to protect both the crocodilian and spectators from harm. These idiots themselves are not my greatest concern as I have been meeting their challenges headon for 20 plus years in this state despite their funding and strength of numbers. It is the overall apathy of SC reptile and exotic animal keepers who are content to watch and complain but who will fail to join and support. Every person who keeps, sells, buys, or promotes the sale of these animals in the great state of SC needs to join immediately. Those who want to make a difference in this war will join and get everyone they know to join this organization as well. Best regards to all. Roark
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by bigsnakedaddy on February 25, 2007
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UPDATE!!! This morning as we opened our motel door we were shocked to find bags of what appeared to be human feces laid up against our motel door. Could be a coincidence but you never know. Sheesh. What next?
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by bigsnakedaddy on February 27, 2007
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NEWSFLASH; Sunday evening as we were driving down the highway after the Anderson, SC show while pulling our fully loaded exhibit trailer the front of the truck started wobbling forcing us to pull over. Apparently someone took a tire iron and broke off two tire studs/bolts (could not be untightened) with attached lugnuts and loosened all the other lugnuts so that they were ready to fall off. Had we not stopped the tire would have come off at 60 mph. We know these animal activists fight dirty. We know they lie and misrepresent. The war should be with words not blatant acts of sabotage! This act will not go unanswered.
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by RC on March 2, 2007
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Hey Roark, Mardi, Chris
I just joined SCARK by Paypal. These PETA people are psychos. Penn and Teller did an episode of "Bullshit" about them. They had proof PETA had paid a known bomber something like $75,000 for his services. Didn't say what he might have done for PETA, but it really made them look bad.
I have a lot of time, so maybe I can help out more than with just the donation. I can raise my membership to the $100 one when I get the money.
Randy Ciuros
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by Hickory on March 14, 2007
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Beware....I have nothing against Roark or some of his ideas, but before you donate money thinking that you are going to be saving your right to keep animals, you should know that Roark was one of the main people in SC that put a stop to people , or should I say made it almost imposible for any one to own a spotted turtle in SC, Much less sale one. He will say that you can own one with a permit, but just try and get a permit from steve bennett and see what happens, and then there is the fact that if you can't sale one you can't buy one, and if you can't buy one how are you going to own one? I know, you say I have a friend that knows were they are and he will catch one for me and just give it to me. Guess again, I tried that, I took a friend so that he could catch one to keep and steve had a fit and threatened to lock both of us up and I never even touched the turtle. All I am saying is beware who you support and their true agenda!
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by MoccasinMan on March 14, 2007
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Hickory- You will need to fill out your profile if you want anyone to take you seriously. You might also consider pulling your head out of your arse. I have worked with Roark for 3 years in NC & SC fighting AR backed legislation. Together we have worked to build NCARK & SCARK into organizations equiped to deal with the problem of ban proposals. While you were complaining about your spotted turtle Roark was on the steps of the SC General Assembly fighting for your rights. No single person has championed the cause of rights of ownership in SC more effectively and persistantly than Roark. I am sorry that you are unhappy with the turtle law (I'm unhappy w/ the turtle law in NC). Where were you when the legislation was being debated... sitting on your couch watching American Idol? What agenda are you referring to that you think Roark is beholden to? Wake up!!!
Andrew
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by wncherps on March 14, 2007
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Hey Parrish. Keep in mind that if Roark and Andrew fail in their "fight" for what you think people should "BEWARE" about, chances are, you won't be able to sell anymore of your wild caught venomous at any more shows. Now I'm going to watch American Idol !
SAL RICCO
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by bigsnakedaddy on March 14, 2007
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What a load of crap! Is your diaper full? You may as a SC native collect 9 adult spotted turtles with an easily obtained no cost permit. No jumping through hoops or anything. Additionally I had nothing to do with the more than fair legislation other than to offer suggestions to a competent and wonderful resource to SC herpers and herps our own Steve Bennett. Steve Bennett has proven over and over to be a model SCDNR Wildlife Biologist that is held in high regard by both professional and amateur reptile keepers alike. Spotted turtles are protected in all states where they are indigenous. SC laws are the fairest and most palatable around. I have for more than 20 yhears defended the rights of the keeper and the kept in SC and other states as well. Whomever you are you are indeed misinformed. What state do you live in? I have heard nothing negative about spotted turtles in this state from SC natives. I can understand that people who rape and pillage our wildlife by collecting and reselling over state lines might be offended that our state treasures are afforded some measure of protection. I do not understand why you would question my motives. I think you will find yourself in small company with people questioning your motives instead. The real enemy rejoices in the fragmented and disjointed herp society that fights over petty jealousies and foolish sensitivities. Your post is an insult to anyone who knows Steve Bennett or myself or anyone with even a modicom of common sense. Instead of a misinformed post designed to discourage people from making a difference you should have called and aired your beef whether real or imaginary. Best regards to all.
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by bigsnakedaddy on March 15, 2007
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UPDATE ON SPOTTED TURTLES! At this time Steve Bennett is doing summer field research. The spotted turtle permit is currently undergoing revision. No changes in number of wildcaught spotteds you can collect (nine), however instead of permit being renewed annually it will only need to be renewed every five years to save time/paperwork. This is a no cost permit. Send in your application (all rules still apply) and your application will be considered to be your permit. You will not need/recieve a paper permit until the new 5 year permits are sent out. Please send in your permit applications and collect no more than nine spotted turtles for private keeping/breeding. When filling out your application be sure to include your phone number and email address so Steve can notify you of reciept. No wildcaught spotted turtles may be sold, or carried across state lines. Captive born offspring of legally acquired turtles may be sold by permitted individuals.
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by Hickory on March 15, 2007
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Hi Roark, I apologize if I offended you in my previous article, I was just letting people know that you hold a position against the wild collecting of reptiles and that you expressed your views when you helped write the spotted turtle laws against the collecting and sale of spotted turtles. I am actually shocked that you in your last article just told every one to go out and break the law. Don't you know that it is against the law to sale a baby spotted turtle, (less than four inches), for ones on personal collection, that is not for scientific purposes. But then again that is what steve bennett intended when ya'll sat down and came up with the law. Yes you do know me and I am from sc and unless you have amnessia you told me that you were the one that actually came up with the part about keeping 9 turtles, so tell me and everyone else again that you had nothing to do with this peace a legislature. I was just mearly using the spotted turtle laws as an example to get a point across. You are against wild collecting and I am for it. I know that you think that you are the only one that has anything to do with fighting for the rights of us herps, but their are thousands of us that constantly voice our oppinions to our congressman and senitors on behalf of SC herps that do it free of charge, because we do love our rights and our reptiles. As for any one that wants spotted turtles I will gladly take them to where they can catch thier limit of 9 without having to illegally puchasing them and I will let everyone see for them selves the true steve bennett and his turtle permitting process in action then everyone can see for themselves were lies the truth. Just e-mail me at living2please@yahoo.com to go get your free spotted turtles. And by the way Roark I do not need to slander someone to get my point across as you and your followers show in their articles. You would think that some people would eventually grow out of that, but then again. I will be seeing you soon, because weather you like it or not we are actually on the same side, I hope, God help you if you're not, because you are going to let down alot of people. By the way, check whats coming up in legislature this session, I already have, your buddy steve bennett is at it again and I'm not talking about spotted turtles, then you may already know this. Should I fill you and everyone else in or let you find out on your own were steve bennett's loyalty's lie. Remember regardless of how great you think that steve bennett is( and I actually like him as a person) he is doing a job and his job is to pass and push what ever laws and regulations through congress that his superiors tell him to regardless of his personal views. So when you talk to steve are you talking to a fellow herp or a guy just doing his job.
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by bigsnakedaddy on March 16, 2007
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It is not against the law in South Carolina to possess the offspring (regardless of size)of legally obtained spotted turtles. If you can't breed spotted turtles with nine adults of appropriate gender and it is your intent to do so you probably should find another line of work. It may be against federal regulations to sell turtles under four inches unless for scientific purposes but not to possess them. Try to get it right before you write. You obviously don't know me at all. I would prefer that we not need any legislation. I am not against people collecting wildcaught animals to strengthen bloodlines for captive breeding projects. I am not against people taking animals from the wild as personal pets. Quite the contrary. I am 100 percent against the taking of reptiles out of the wild for blatant resale in SC. It's called conservation. Anyone who understands po;itics and protocol works with state agencies in order to accomplish good and not sacrifice our rights. You don't have a clue what I think. Just because I am out there fighting to make a difference on nearly all levels doesn't mean I think I have or should fight the wars alone. Read the article. This war is fought with the help of many enlightened individuals that I call allies and friends. I enlist the aid of all who care to make a difference and that is what I am doing now. Steve may work for a government agency but he is a herpetologist thru and thru and one of the most decent and fairminded individuals I have ever met. Believe it or not he is not a proponent for useless regulations nor does he delight in enforcement for enforcements sake. He's a man who is thoughtful and insightful and one of us. The spotted turtle law in SC is better than any other state's laws and are not invasive but rather nice/generous. Our resources need to be protected so that they are there for future generations. We have the best reptile laws in the country and it is our intent to keep them that way. If you have your nine spotted turtles go ahead and breed them. Your posts aren't going to help legislative matters or conservation matters on any level. It sounds as if you have a personal beef with Steve and are taking it out on me because I have forged relationships with people in SCDNR in order for us as a whole to have input in the laws that can affect our careers/hobbies. You are invited to join SCARK after reading the article again. Whether you believe it or not we fight for your rights to keep reptiles. Oh, and by the way, although I am against mass collection of reptiles for blatant resale in SC I am not in favor of legislation to ban the practice of selling a wildcaught reptile. We have real enemies to fight who are more organized and better funded. Let's concentrate on them not personal battles with each other!
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by elapidkeeper on March 31, 2007
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What's in SC legislature that we should know about that involves more than spotted turtles(which for one, who cares) Hickory?
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by cjnjsherps on March 7, 2009
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Hey, Roark, Mardi...I'm moving BACK to SC this summer, June, supposedly, only not back to Anderson, which is where I grew up. Anyhow, having some difficulties tracking down the state's legislative stance on herp ownership online. I'm assuming there's a list of "nuisance" animals, as well as "protected" species that can be found in the state, but have no clue as to where to find them. In addition, I'm an old school "hot" head, although I've whittled down my collection to just a few rattlesnakes in preparation for the move. Currently, I live in NM, and for the last 5 years or so I've been doing educational programs for the Wildlife Center with my reptiles, as well as co-heading the safe capture and release program sponsored by the same organization...I believe the web link is www.thewildlifecenter.org for those that are curious.
Any chance one of you guys could give me a heads up on where to look and what to expect? Dan Brooks of NM Game and Fish had me relocate my gaboons, puffs, albino monocleds, and two gators a couple of years ago to make a public example out of me, and I spent the subsequent 2 years pushing to change the legislation in this state which currently says "at the office's discretion." Doing what I do for the Wildlife Center has kept me in the public light, so I was an obvious publicity statement. The way this all got started was over a little copperhead that migrated into the state in a load of firewood. We got the call at the center, rescued the little guy, and Fish and Game showed up an hour or so later claiming it was an illegal alien that either had to be euthanized, or placed back out of the state within 72 hours! Not knowing exactly where it originated from other than a 50 mile radius, we could not return it, and finding someone willing to take it was harder than expected, but it did work -out only do not ask how or to where. So far, I've only accomplished staying the push in this state, and also putting a format in their hands to help ascertain what probably should, and should not, be allowed and to whom, as well as establishing a format for why. At the start of all this, I got into a discussion with Charlie Painter, the state Herpetologist, as to why it's legal to collect all but one of our species of rattlesnakes, and keep, but it's not allowed to bring in even rear-fanged and mildly venomous snakes from outside of the state, unfortunately I made my point by embarrassing him in a public forum by pointing out that even hognose snakes are rear fanged and mildly venomous. While that single statement helped in the sense that Game and Fish has backed off and been more willing to look at fallacies in in-office protocol for them, it will probably be remembered in a negative light in the future...get frustrated, open mouth-insert foot!
Any info would be greatly appreciated, and please expect me to be an ACTIVE member once getting there. Charleston is the proposed destination, in order to be closer to family again, although finding employment may be a larger determining factor in the exact location. Thank You
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RE: SC Association of Reptile Keepers
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by MegF on March 8, 2009
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Mail this to a friend!
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There are very few restrictions as to keeping any snake here in S.C. You can buy and keep any venomous or non-venomous as long as it's not on the protected list. Indigos for instance require a permit. Otherwise, go to the local columbia show and you can pretty much buy anything there you want.
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