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by vanerka on September 26, 2006
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That sucks, did insurance help out at all with the bills??????..... Although these are the risks that venomous keepers take and are willing to accept. And if your not ready or willing to accept these responsibilities you shouldnt be a venomous owner. As foolish as it may seem to some I understand driving yourself to the hospital. You also would have had to wait a longer period of time for the ambulance to arrive anyway. Assuming you dont live right next to the hospital. A man once said there are thoes who have been bitten and there are other to be bit. As in many hobbies theres up and down. The only difference is ours has possibly dibilitating and even fatal consiquences for accidents. I found this article very interesting to the insights of keeping venomous.
Thanks
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by svsnakes on September 26, 2006
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Thanks for the support. Because of my job, the insurance can't drop me, but they tried. Yes, they did pay most of it.
I do have to disagree with your friend's statement. Although it is highly likely that you will be bitten eventually if you keep hots-it is your choice. If I was more careful I wouldn't have been bitten. As far as I am concerned (and people don't like to hear this) if you are bitten it's like having an accidental discharge with a firearm. It's not accidental you did something wrong.
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by Voided37 on September 27, 2006
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Kenneth,
Whoa! It hurts just reading it.
First i gotta say how glad i am it was no worse than it was. Which was way too bad. I'm just glad your still here!
Second i want to thank you for sharing your experience. If it helps someone else avoid what you went through that's a little consolation for you and an immense help for someone else.
I'm curious if you voluntarily turned your hots in or were you required to? Nobody can blame you regardless for stopping that particular hobby. But did the state require it?
I appreciate and share your feelings for snakes. And i gotta tell you thanks for that also.
I took a dry Cottonmouth bite so i can only imagine the anxiety you went through before you got help.
Again thank you for sharing with us.
Sincerely,
Steve
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by svsnakes on September 27, 2006
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No the state did not require that I give up the snakes. I assume that is because I had the permits, but, the way I understand it (a little disclaimer since I'm not a lawyer)in AZ you can keep up to 4 rattlesnakes of each species without a permit as long as they're not protected species. I only had 2 atrox and 2 scutes. I didn't even have any contact with state authorities other than informally with friends of mine. I voluntarily gave my snakes to Poison Control for their research. They said that if I ever wanted them back I could have them.
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by vanerka on September 27, 2006
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Yes, but in most cases its the small accidents that can turn dangerous. That was just random comment and nothing was ment by it. I apologize. I understand your viewpoint completely. As far as the insurance goes, i read somewhere that if your bitten it goes down on insurance forms as attempted suicide. Now whether thats through health insurance, or life insurance im not quite shure, and i dont exactly remember where I read it but I have gone awhile understanding this was the way insurance companies handeled envenomations...
Thanks, Eric Vanerka
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by Voided37 on September 27, 2006
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Aha..
Thanks for the quick response.
I'm glad to hear they didn't require it. That's excellent. See, i agree with
you that the snake will do what snakes do. And we must know that and prepare
for it. But hey, friend, we all get a little lax or circumstances seem to
conspire and first thing we know...DoDo happens. That was some expensive DoDo,
hunh? But at least the state didn't add insult to injury and require you give
them up like your in the wrong or something. Look at Bill Haast. 170something
times...
I hope you don't blame yourself because you've been through enough.
Sincerely,
steve
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by FangTwo on April 15, 2007
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An experience like this is unfortunate although, a dangerous hobby indeed, these are amazing creatures to have. I myself have a Mojave Green and 3 Southern Pacific Rattlers. I am glad to read you survived. I have never tried to handle these snakes and there is always something between my hand/arm and the snake when I am in the tanks.
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by MojaveMan on November 17, 2008
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Yeah, that type A mojave toxin can be a show stopper. Sounds like your snake wasn't in captive mood and you got a very full dose, good thing it was just one fang, you were fortunate, how long had the snake been in captivity before the bite? I hope the wife relents and allows the snakes back, I will admit that can be a tall order.
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by svsnakes on November 17, 2008
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I had the snake for about a year. Like I said, it was my fault. I got careless. As of yet, the wife hasn't relented on the snakes, but I'm working on her about getting a ball. I doubt she'll ever relent on hots, but divorce is an option. Stay safe.
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