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The Rinkhals Spitting Cobra
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by CYNTHIA on November 2, 2000
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Thank you, Susan, for your great article on the Rinkhals. I'm not a herper but I am interested in hot snakes. I'm a fiction writer and I'm researching for a short story set in a serpentarium and your info was terrific. Have seen several other things you've posted, in addition to your husband's sites (thank him for the stridulation explanation and drawings on the saw scaled vipers). Your world isn't my world but you've sure given me a window into it. I really appreciate it.
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by jennie on November 1, 2001
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Ok-with all due respect ----very smart and intelligent article----BUT I read a book yesterday entitled "The Dangerous Snakes of Africa" ------ and all the info you had --- although worded somewhat different-and in some cases word for word-was the exact same info in the book. I have nothing against plagerism I guess- but I was looking for more info about these snakes with was not given. (although the breeding you were talking about is very puzzling - and the most interesting FOR ME about your article)
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by AllenH on April 1, 2002
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Hi Jennie.
You might not have noticed but Spawls & Branch's "Dangerous snakes of Africa" was listed as a reference.
Now, to explain; no matter how original of an article I would have wished to write, there are certain barriers in achieving this, namely distribution, biology of the animal and venom-composition. All of these I cannot change. Therefore,I have taken Spawls & Branch's word for it, and list their experiences and knowledge on the subject. Naturally, along with the source of where the info came from.
Dont get me wrong, I would have loved to be able to tell of 16 ft. purple & yellow rinkhals from Lake Erie, whom at a mere touch of the tip of its nose could send the victim into a rabid-like frenzy, unfortunately, that would have made me a liar.
Anyway, you said; "but I was looking for more info about these snakes with was not given" if you give it a shot and actually pose the question- I, or someone else who checks out this article might be able to help you out.
"I have nothing against plagerism I guess" this part puzzles me - being a Norwegian I guess I might have a poor understanding of the language, but isn't plagiarism "a bad thing"- and would this not be a false statement given that there were sources provided?.
Regards;
Susan H.
I would normally not check out this article unless as in this case, a post is brought to my attention. if you do wish to post something that requires a reply, or get in touch with me, give me a "heads-up" on my e-mail addy vipera4@hotmail.com
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by noga100 on July 26, 2003
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Just a bit more info on the Rinkhals.
It is not refered to as Rinkhals spitting cobra but just Rinkhals wich we try and use to stop the confusion around this snake.
One of the interesting facts about this snake is the actual act of "spitting". They do not have the highly modified and specialised venom ejection system of most of your true Naja "spitting" cobras.
Actualy the naja's eg mossambica, nigricint,nigricollis etc should be refered to as squirting cobras as they can "spit" from any angle wether hooded or not they very often "spit" from a prone position or even when necked which makes them kind of like holding o loaded gun to anyone up to three metres in front of u. The actual act of "spitting" in Naja is achieved by rapid and powerfull contraction of the venom glands which forces venom through the fang's and in the required direction the snake desires. The venom leaves the mouth as 2 jet streams and is very acurate and directional therefore more effective than Hemachatus.
The hemachatus could be considered more of a spitter as they can not spit from a prone position but can only spit from a hooded position. The action of ejecting venom is consideribly different. The venom is oozed into the open mouth from the fangs when ready the snake lunges forward hissing and these 2 combined actions eject the venom from the snakes mouth at the attacker. this could be the reason why they display thanatosis so easily if pinned or severly antogonised due to the fact that they can only spit from a hooded position.
The one worrying thing about Hemachatus conservation in South Africa is that one of the most important populations of this species occur around the Johannesburg and Pretoria area and with the rate of urbanization this could pose a threat to there survival.
Just a note on spitting snakes a few years back i had the oportunity to have a look at a spitting cottonmouth. This snake got so aggresive that while its mouth is open in its threat display it oozed venom into its mouth anticipating a bite, when it mock struck the,venom in its mouth was sent flying out. Rather similar to the Rinkhals.
The name is afrikaans denoting the white bands on the neck when hooded.
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by noga100 on July 27, 2003
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just an error once reding through the posting.
the act of spitting in Naja's is done by contractions of the venom sacs and not glands as i first absent mindedly wrote
regards
Andrew Jackson
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by Bigred on February 19, 2004
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Noga and others
If any of you have kept naja mossambicus, do you have any hints or tips?
I am getting one in a few days time, have done tons of research, but have found few people who have actually kept them.
Please, any advice would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gary
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by drjay on July 25, 2004
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Good article. Just wondering: Is that the Rinkhals you are holding? If so I must voice my concern. I know many who do not keep hots read the forums. One of them may get the wrong idea from the picture with disasterous results. I am not saying do not handle. Thats clearly your decision. I am just concerned about an accident and the reputation it produces for the hot herp keepers. A good friend of mine routinely handled his Mangrove. He claimed it was rear fanged and produced mild venom. Yep he was bitten and incurred quite a hospital bill. Also made the local news and there was quite an uproar about the legality of hots in my area. So much so that a group tried to have the laws changed. Thankfully they failed.
Careful!!!,
Jay
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by Denise on May 7, 2007
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Greetings from Australia.
Twenty years ago I knew a German fellow called Rolph Klipver (not sure of spelling, could be Klopfer with an umlaut) who kept a room full of snakes in glass cages, including cobras, rinkhalses, puff adder, sidewinders and even a python. His snakes were always in excellent condition.
He worked for a company called Repvet. They I think also produce or would have information on vitamins etc.
Denise
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by FOOTBALLFAN on December 27, 2007
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you can tell that is not the rinkhals shes holding look at the tail and the scales even in that photo would give it away.
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