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by Chris_Harper on January 2, 2006
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I'm looking on the list for "Privately Owned Venomous Snakes" as a cause of death in South Carolina, and I'm just not finding it!!! I wonder if the legislature is even going to consider this small tidbit or information, or if they will enact this law simply based on fear?
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/publications/factsheets/ChronicDisease/south_carolina.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10389384&dopt=Abstract
http://www.sciway.net/statistics/scsa98/vs/vs7.html
Has the concept of "evidence based science/medicine" made it to the state house yet??? Wouldn't it be nice if we had some "evidence based legislation"? You South Carolina keepers better get organized now and get an articulate, educated spokesman to represent your point-of-view, or you'll be "de-snaked" within 7 months.
Chris Harper
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by RepFan on January 3, 2006
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Chris,
Thank you so much for posting this on the site and putting it on the fore front so that it can easily been seen. The more help we can enlist in fighting this proposed ban the better.
~Todd
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by Chris_Harper on January 4, 2006
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READ THAT LAW AGAIN!!! It will affect THOUSANDS of people in the state of South Carolina.
SO here's what you should do: Set up a non-profit to represent everyone impacted by this law in the State of South Carolina. You can call it - "The South Carolina Exotic Animal Alliance".
Then, set up a 4 or 5 page website with a downloadable membership application PDF file and a flyer soliciting membership based on your common goal. You also might as well consider keeping this organization going, because this legislation will show up over and over.
THEN, have the fliers printed up - they should say something like "Exotic Animal Keepers UNITE!!! Or lose your beloved pets!"
Put them in the windows of every pet store in the state. It should list EVERY animal species that will be impacted. It should also say, "Is your pet on this list?" Make sure your website address is on the flyer so they can download the membership application and send in membership fees of $10 to $25. You will need this money to operate.
Once you have built up a substantial membership, call for a meeting in a central location, like Columbia. I'm sure Roark will attend, so you'll have some good guidance to develop your gameplan.
South Carolina venomous keepers should unite under the banner of "Southeastern Hot Herp Society South Carolina Chapter" within that alliance - with my blessing of course.
What are you waiting for!?!? Get started!
Chris H.
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by Chris_Harper on January 4, 2006
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The Yahoo Groups is a good place to find exotic animal owners on the net. For instance, Lemur owners have their own Yahoo Group.
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Science/Biology/Animals/Mammals/Primates/Lemurs
~CH
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by Scott7590 on January 6, 2006
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Chris,
It would be helpful if you would post the Senator's mailing address.
Letters are much more effective than emails, which are routinely screened by staff and seldom make it to the Senator's desk.
Please send a brief email to ALL people registered on this web site. Let them know about letters rather than emails and remind them that Thomas is a Senator serving in the SC State Legislature, not a U. S. Senator serving the State in Washington.
I am going to write a letter to Senator Thomas and urge him to take a look at Florida's permit law for venomous reptiles.
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by bigsnakedaddy on January 6, 2006
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This is bigger than just a venomous permit law. After the last go round with 4403 (now 959) we (State Animal Advisory Review Board) sat down and came up with a working model based on the the Florida model (ours is easier on the palate)formed a comittee that recieved thumbs up from rational SC people so affected. We were however able to defeat the bill and thus it was not desirable at the time (manpower/budget constraints) to implement even though I wanted it implemented to give us legitimacy immediately. The proposal is still intact and held in reserve. I must caution that that only helps a small field of people. The animal world in this state is very diversified and we are fighting a dirty eco-terrorist group who lives on rhetoric, misinformation, and is not dedicated to the truth. The fruitcakes at API and PETA will never rest because their passion and agendas are all they live for regardless of who gets in their way. Again well constructed letters to Senator Thomas and all members of the sc house and senate are necessary exposing API agenda and their anti hunting and fishing lobby. In a non-combative way let them know you are a registered voter and will vote against anyone who supports this bill on any level. Here is the bill. You can get the email address of all the members on the site. Get everyone involved. http://www.scstatehouse.net/sess116_2005-2006/bills/959.htm
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by Chris_Harper on January 6, 2006
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Have a look at the API's website:
http://www.api4animals.org/
They even keep up with legislation state by state!
http://www.api4animals.org/legislation_archive_state.php
These people are exactly what you South Carolina people aren't...........o.r.g.a.n.i.z.e.d!!!
Time to start that non-profit guys --The South Carolina Exotic Animal Alliance.
CH
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by bigsnakedaddy on January 7, 2006
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Thanks Chris. Everyone please cut and paste these addresses and place them in the to section of your email and let the people know how opposed you are to this insult to our intellect and intrusion on our rights:
SIV@scsenate.org <SIV@scsenate.org>; RA@scsenate.org <RA@scsenate.org>; BRYANTK@scsenate.org <BRYANTK@scsenate.org>; CAMPSEN@scsenate.org <CAMPSEN@scsenate.org>; CLEARYR@scsenate.org <CLEARYR@scsenate.org>; EDU@scsenate.org <EDU@scsenate.org>; CROMERR@scsenate.org <CROMERR@scsenate.org>; PTE@scsenate.org <PTE@scsenate.org>; DE@scsenate.org <DE@scsenate.org>; CP@scsenate.org <CP@scsenate.org>; RIF@scsenate.org <RIF@scsenate.org>; SFG@scsenate.org <SFG@scsenate.org>; SAG@scsenate.org <SAG@scsenate.org>; DH@scsenate.org <DH@scsenate.org>; set@scsenate.org <set@scsenate.org>; CBH@scsenate.org <CBH@scsenate.org>; DJ1@scsenate.org <DJ1@scsenate.org>; JAKE@scsenate.org <JAKE@scsenate.org>; JCL@scsenate.org <JCL@scsenate.org>; SFI@scsenate.org <SFI@scsenate.org>; PL@scsenate.org <PL@scsenate.org>; JBL@scsenate.org <JBL@scsenate.org>; MALLOYG@scsenate.org <MALLOYG@scsenate.org>; SRU@scsenate.org <SRU@scsenate.org>; JWM@scsenate.org <JWM@scsenate.org>; SJU@scsenate.org <SJU@scsenate.org>; JYM@scsenate.org <JYM@scsenate.org>; SGE@scsenate.org <SGE@scsenate.org>; TLM@scsenate.org <TLM@scsenate.org>; WHO@scsenate.org <WHO@scsenate.org>; KAY@scsenate.org <KAY@scsenate.org>; MED@scsenate.org <MED@scsenate.org>; CCP@scsenate.org <CCP@scsenate.org>; LR@scsenate.org <LR@scsenate.org>; GR@scsenate.org <GR@scsenate.org>; SR1@scsenate.org <SR1@scsenate.org>; JHR@scsenate.org <JHR@scsenate.org>; STR@scsenate.org <STR@scsenate.org>; SCOTTR@scsenate.org <SCOTTR@scsenate.org>; NGS@scsenate.org <NGS@scsenate.org>; VS@scsenate.org <VS@scsenate.org>; LHS@scsenate.org <LHS@scsenate.org>
Now the tedious work is done. The hard work is ahead. Please voice your concerns to the above listed members of the house and senate. Then tell everybody else who has an interest. Veterinarians, Pet shop owners, breeders of birds, cats, dogs, fish, reptiles, cattle, horses, and exotics. Set them on fire and get them to join us in this monumental assualt on our livlihoods. Best regards. Roark
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by Scott7590 on January 7, 2006
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Hi Roark,
Hi Roark,
“I must caution that that only helps a small field of people.”
That may be true as it pertains to the portion of the bill concerning reptiles, but the bill covers other exotics, too. And even though reptile collectors may be relatively few in number, if collectors of other exotics are brought into the fold the total number swells dramatically.
As you know, API, HSUS, and PETA are after ALL of us who keep animals. I'm sure we are on their "hit list" because they think we're a soft target and y hope to get a "victory" at our expense. But you probably know as well as anyone that these zealots also "care" about anything that is alive (except humans). If they get their way, you’ll get arrested for swatting a fly while you’re eating your vegan lunch.
I am going to start writing letters (I already have one ready to go to Senator Thomas) in an effort to discredit the "animal rights" groups and, hopefully, deter legislators from supporting anything they advocate. When you look carefully at their web sites, they are propaganda machines that specialize in deceit and misinformation. If legislators see for themselves the kind of misinformation these groups spew out, they may think twice about supporting legislation the zealots propose. I don't think any elected official wants to be exposed for proposing or supporting legislation that is based on faulty or, particularly, false premises.
Someone (or, better yet, a bunch of people) with South Carolina addresses should contact Senator Thomas's office and request a record of all campaign contributions he has received from API, HSUS, PETA and any other "animal rights" groups. That should, at least, get him to scratch his head.
Regards,
Scott
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by MoccasinMan on January 10, 2006
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Roark makes some very good points. Something that should be researched is the trigger event that prompted this senator to sponsor the bill. Who put this bill in front of the senator... that is your animal rights activist within the state. Expose them for who they are. Expose their motives.You must expose this bills roots in the AR movement to the members of the legislature. It is quite possible that sen. Thomas and the others are unaware of the API/PETA connection. Here in NC not to many sen. were interested in being associated with a bunch of AR activists that were in favor of outlawing livestock farming, hunting, fishing, trapping and even family pets. This isn't California. Make sure these carpetbaggers are identified for who and what they are. The good citizens of SC will not be impressed when they find out who the legislators are in bed with. Feel free to contact me and i will show you the highly successful model we have used to fight the same bill here in NC. Roark has worked as an advisor to us and we would like to return the favor. We have started to turn the tide here in NC. Your future success would help set precidents and strengthen the model.
Andrew Wyatt
NC Association of Reptile Keepers
www.ncark.org (will be operational in a few days)
andrew@ncark.org
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