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by JRHarrison on October 5, 2004
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The societies are as follows:
American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists
The Herpetologists League
Society for the Study of Amphibians and Reptiles
All have websites.
As far as Irwin and venomiods. Animals used when he was here in the USA on TV programs came from a gentlemen that only keeps venomiods and when filming in the northwest the animals also came from another well known venomiod keeper. Our vet worked for both of these groups at one time. The vet does not believe in venomiods but they were done before he worked for them.
Think about it TV companies have alot of insurance on their stars (Leno, Letterman ,etc.) they would never allow them to be put at risk or the audience.
As far as death goes. You are still young and I hope you don't see to many loved ones die. But every person probably has someone that loves them so killing or dying hurts not just the victim but others.
As a person who has seen to many deaths and has had his heart stop 4 times I would like to say it is not
fun to die. Please think twice about statements involving your life or others.If you have questions you can contact us at the Kentucky Reptile Zoo email
kyreptil@pop.mis.net or call 606-663-9160 between 11:00am and 8:00pm .
Also no one can predict the actions of humans much less animals.
Jim Harrison
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by timberrattlesnake89 on October 5, 2004
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I do mean what I say about how I would die for wildlife. I do not plan to die anytime soon. I also never even try to pin a snakes head down. I am very careful around all wildlife. From bears to venomous snakes. I just have to say that the photo is not what it seems. I do apreciate you guys being worried. But I use tools and I am not going to be one of those people that is killed. One thing I do not like is older people treating me like I am little kid. I am very mature and intellegant. Also my mother was with with me when I caught the snake. She knows how far it was away from me.
Phillip
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by bush_viper17 on October 8, 2004
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hey, Im not wanting to get in on the argument(lol) but I was there with Phillip when he hooked it and he was very carefull and respectful. We watched it for along time and then he tonged it to move it to flatter ground because the edge of a rock is a bad place to try and grab any pit viper. After that he exchanged his tongs for a hook and carefully worked with it to get a better understanding. I called him a few days before and asked if he wanted to go herping because I know of alot of places for timbers/canebrakes. That was out main goal to find and we talked about it the whole time. We finally found one and he was the one who worked with it. I see them everyday up here so I didnt work with that one much.
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by JRHarrison on October 11, 2004
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You do not have to touch or hook a snake to make observations of its behavior. In fact more is learned from not touching it. Touching a Venomous snake just to do it is only for the handlers ego.
It is illegal in Georgia parks to collect or move any wildlife, including reptiles.
I tried to make suggests but youth knows all things. Your handling technique is bad. Your friends hand should not be touching the snakes tail. Internet and books are good but common sense and peer reviewed information is best.
I can not teach you because you already know it all.
So I will stop writing.
Jim Harrison
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Anonymous post on October 11, 2004
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get over it. This is my passion. Ive never been bit like some one we know. Nor do I plan on getting bit. These snakes are very easy to work with. I know from experience. I see timbers every day and handle them every day. I was just telling about my trip. I planned on someone to have a bad comment about it. If you dont do it, why respond to the post. Ive been told that before. I dont know. Maybe I look at wildlife from a different perspective. I never go into anything half way. Oh well...Ill get over it.
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Anonymous post on October 11, 2004
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Your wrong. It isnt just for ego. Lets say that I play drums. Could I learn more by just looking at the drum set or actually playing the drums? If I was a barber, could I learn more about cutting peoples hair by watching someone else cut it, or would I learn more by cutting it myself? This is just like any other passion. You have to be carefull and learn as much as you can. But for a field herper, what would be the reward of looking for hours, days, months, even years to find an animal and just looking at it. I do enjoy looking at them, but I also like to get the feel. This is what I do. This is what Ill do for the rest of my life. I want to be the best. Any one can be the best, but it takes getting right in there to learn everything. I was going to buy a book about timber rattlesnakes and then I was like....well, I could just go in my back yard and write about my own experiences. I can go out side and learn more by actually handling and observing the animal. That goes with any other hobby.
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Anonymous post on November 24, 2004
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Hey Phillip, you are just a kid. Quit acting like you know what you are doing. You are just a errogant kid who who is going to get bit. So please do us all a favor and shut the hell up!
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