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by bush_viper17 on November 1, 2004	Mail this to a friend!
Hey everyone, A few weeks ago I saw a snake that Ive never seen before down town, then one day I was waiting on Phillip to arrive and I was standing beside a creek and saw an unusuall water snake, Today my grandad and I were coming back home and I told him to stop and then I saw a dead red-bellied water snake on the road. I live in the North Georgia mountains, to me more specific, I live in Chatsworth,Georgia about 5 minutes from Fort Mountain State Park in North West Georgia almost in tennessee. Everything Ive read says that I dont have the red-bellied water snake but Ive seen two!!! I will post some pictures in the field photos section. Sadly though the snake that I will photograph is a Dead one.

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by Buzztail1 on November 11, 2004	Mail this to a friend!
Jeremy, I would recommend that you document exactly where you found the snakes / date / time / atmospheric conditions such as humidity and temperature / and report the information to Georgia DNR. At the very least they will be able to put you in touch with the State Biologist who keep those records which are used when creating and revising Field Guides. I have certainly tried very hard to verify the presence of the Southern Copperhead in Camden County as I routinely get reports of them there. So far, every reported Copperhead has actually been a Corn Snake, Water Snake or in one case a Gartersnake. Karl H. Betz

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by bush_viper17 on November 11, 2004	Mail this to a friend!
I emailed Whit Gibbons at SREL and he passed the info on to the co author of North American Water Snakes.I will catch a live specimen next spring and document it. I know where I can catch one at.well two.

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by bush_viper17 on November 11, 2004	Mail this to a friend!
Why do you think that they would be here. I wouldnt think that someone just released one because the dead one I found was about alittle over 3 feet in length, the small one I saw was about a foot and a half at the most and the biggest one was about 3 to 4 feet. The smallest one had more pattern and more of a reddish color and the one that I posted the dead picture of has a plain red belly and is an olive color on dorsal side. Maybe Ill get lucky and find a cottonmouth up here. I know that there arent any cottons up here,but if there did happen to be one, i know of two places that would be perfect if one happend to venture up here.

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