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by Granny on January 10, 2005
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Thank you ! That is what happens to me. I 've only seen blacksnakes in my nest. I know they won't hurt me but I always take a few quick steps back not concerned with what I'll trip over.
Back to my original question, does anyone know why some rattlers are flat on the ground and some are 'up & down?
I learned that does'nt tell the sex. Thank you. I've been guilty of repeating this myth...it 'made sense'.
Just courious if there is a reason or it just happens.
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by ALA_herp31 on January 10, 2005
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Welcome back Dyana, glad to see we did not run you off “joking”. In my last post I just thought I would give a little story with a moral behind it. Sometimes I think I ramble to much, at least that’s what my parents tell me. Anyway, I hope you can find a good way to save your Chickens from any more Reptile encounters, and still be able to allow the Snakes to live their lives out. Good luck, hope things get better........Be safe, Wally
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by Joy on January 10, 2005
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Here here, Wally!
I can jump 6 feet strait up if I’m not expecting a snake, and six feet strait out if I’m after one.
Granny, I’ve recommended this before--and been told that it did work--to folks who were going to exterminate every snake on their property. You might want to try some naphthalene moth balls. It might discourage them somewhat. But I have no idea what it would do to the chickens.
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by Granny on January 10, 2005
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I don't like them but I'm not trying to get rid of them. My orignal question was why do some rattle snakes have rattlers up & down and some are flat on the ground?
I recieved such informative replys I figured someone may a have a good idea for a keeping snakes under control.(I did say safe and humane)
You could put all the knowledge I know about snakes in a thimble. My snakes aren't in a glass box. I live in their environment and have learned to adapt I guess. We have never been harmed by one. I've had a few dogs bitten. They survive the copperheads, not so lucky with the rattlers!
We have killed very few. I know they have an important roll in our delicate eco system....yada,yada,yada.
Thats why I live where I do. We don't hunt anything, live right across the road from a wild life management and are rich with deer, turkey,bear and mt. lions.
No, I don't like the snakes but I've learn to live in their space without causing to many waves.
I'll keep watching the great input here. I've already learned alot.Thanks guys!
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by AquaHerp on January 11, 2005
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First off, moth balls work on nothing but....moths. And their use on anything outside of that is against Federal Law.
The question about some rattlesnakes laying flat I am guessing would have to do with seeing them in a relaxed state (as in basking) or in some species more than others, as a defensive role. This is simply a matter of a dorsal-lateral flattening to either gain more sun exposure, in the case of basking, or to appear larger in the case of defense. There may be a bit of a flattening as a defense to help lower the animal's profile in an attempt to break up the pattern and blend in better to its surroundings. Many other snakes will adopt this posture when threatened, garter snakes, water snakes, and occasionally the black rat snakes. But the rattlesnake are among the few that "relax out" and flatten when basking too. More body surface, more heat. I would surmise that you are seeing these snakes, as may be others, in various states of duress. But it has nothing to do with sex determination or a preference of males to do this over females overall.
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Anonymous post on January 11, 2005
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I can't help but notice some remarkable similarities between pitbulllady and
-the phantom
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Anonymous post on January 13, 2005
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Pitbill lady is the phantom. So pitbulllady keep your bad advise to yourself. Im sure I speak for everyone in here when I say this.
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