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Nose-horned (ammodytes) viper care
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by Cipango on March 3, 2005
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Hi all, I'm new (actually very new) to snake keeping, and want to start little by little a small ammodytes ammodytes viper farm, for purposes of venom milking.
I will start small, with one or 2 snakes, to get used to them (I never handled snakes before), and I intend to take care of them for a whole season.
Now, I know I'm already embarking on a whole new adventure, but I'm actually doing it with a buddy of mine and we are pretty determined to have a farm up and running in a year max.
So, please share with me some of the things we need to know before we busy ourselves with hots. In particular, I'm not sure about the size and shape of the cages (they will be hand-made), and material to use. Also, temperature, humidity, how best to position the cages so they have light, quality/quantity of light (is daylight better, as much as possible?).
Please, bear with me. Any input is appreciated.
P.S. I'm located in Eastern Europe, Romania, so the snakes will be from here, but bred in captivity, not caught from the wild.
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Anonymous post on March 3, 2005
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You have pretty good english to not be from the US. Also you say a "buddy" of yours, that saying is used in the US alot. You also say you have never handled snakes before but you know the latin name of the nose horned viper.Huh(scratching head).
If you are serious than please forgive this post but sometimes people do things like this to make some people mad. But if you are serious, fill out your profile so we will know and everyone will be more than glad to help you.
Lets hit the dust.
Larry.
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by Cipango on March 3, 2005
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But of course, I am dead serious. Snakes it is!
My profile doesn't say much, I'm afraid, but I've had a few occupations in my life, after being a student for too long (including in the US), and now that I returned to my country (I've family here), am looking for something worthwhile to do. Many people are very much into agriculture here, and it appears that snake farms along with snail farms, are very trendy ideas. However, snakes are really for the few who dare...
You see, my real difficulty is not even what to do with the venom I collect, because this matter is pretty much solved already. I need information from people who have real hands-on experience with this kind of business. Someone was wondering how I know the Latin name of this viper; now, give me that much credit: I know at least how to introduce the object of my interest. And I'm open to feedback from those in the know.
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by Phobos on March 3, 2005
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Oh brother! If we didn't have enough crazy people here,now we have imports!
I'm with Doug on this one.
Al
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by elapidking81 on March 3, 2005
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Well I will say it like this there isn’t a single person here that at one time or another enquired about milking snakes for a living. But I will tell you this like it was told to me there is no really lucrative career in milking snakes for there venom unless you have demand for it and a lab were you can process it. But as you have stated you are new to the trade so it would be a very dangerous thing to do unless you have the proper knowledge and equipment.
shane
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by Cipango on March 4, 2005
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Look people, I wouldn't start a business without prospecting the market a little. And, I don't know how much you know about the venom market and prices, but I'm telling you it is VERY lucrative. Also, I already have labs (several) interested to buy.
All I have to do now is, obtain the venom! So, are you going to help with some practical advice, or would you rather soon find out (I will put it in my will for the news thereof to be posted on this forum) that I got bit by my snakes because I was missing some vital information, and you did nothing to prevent that.
C'mon, joking aside, I am very serious about starting this business. Is it too difficult to give me some details about cages and their best layout around the room, and lighting and such? I am going to get protection equipment too (I'm not starting with a budget of $100), I don't want to kick the bucket milking snakes. And also, I'm quite interested to get to know them. Did I mention that if I wanted to do this for a living, this doesn't mean I am going to hate the guts out of those snakes? I want to treat them well, and that's why I need to learn in advance as much as I can. Everybody started out at some point, right?
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by Snake17 on March 4, 2005
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Lots of people do this here. Catch dousins of ammodytes for selling. The snakes are kept in horrific conditions and all the keeper is thinking of is money. Most of them keep around 150 ammodytes in 2 big cages. so thats 75 in one cage and 75 in the other. A gram of VIpera ammodytes venom could get up to 1000$ +. I will say it my self, idiots !!!
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Anonymous post on March 4, 2005
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I still think this could be a joke but if he wants info we should give it to him without all the criticism.For all we know maybe he has plans to hire experts in snake handling to do the milking for him.All he simply asked was proper care and housing questions.Please don't let this turn into one of those usless forums.All should be welcome here,and should not be afraid to ask questions for they might be laughed at or criticised.If they wanted that they could have gone to Fauna classifieds.
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