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by shaotim on May 8, 2005
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I found this snake in my shower and ive never seen it before. I live in central texas. Its about 3 inches long maybe less obviously a hatchling. No identifying markings on it what so ever. pug nose. a little lighter in color than a earth worm. And yes its a snake...worms dont have forked tongues. its only about 2 or 3 milimeters wide. I cant put a pic up ... and i cant find one either. Its almost tan in color with a white belly and two black eyes. Very SMALL. please help.
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by Phobos on May 8, 2005
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We need more information than you've given...Like:
Where you live....
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by ALA_herp31 on May 8, 2005
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By the way you describe the Snake it sounds like it mite be a Worm Snake. It would be nice to have more info, having a more detailed idea of your location would at least narrow down the Species and make things easier. Just a suggestion.............Be safe ya’ll, happy herping Wally
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by Phobos on May 8, 2005
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Well I guess I did miss that..DUH!...sorry
Welcome back Wally we missed ya!! Everything okay?
Al
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by Cro on May 8, 2005
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Justin: Assuming the snake is the size you said, and has the coloration you said, and you live in Central Texas, it is one of five snakes.
It will take a little more work on your part though ! I want you to look closer at some details and let us know what you find !
First of all, it is not a Worm Snake because you are 500 miles outside of their range.
1. It could be a Blind Snake, (Leptotyphlops dulcis). They are pale shiny brown to reddish brown above, with a whittish belly. Their tail is blunt. They have no pattern at all. They look a lot like earthworms. This is the most likely candidate.
2. It could be a Rough Earth Snake, (Virginia striatula). These snakes are light grey to brown, but the head is Pointed, and they have Keeled Scales. They are not shiny, but rough or dull looking. Probably not what you found.
3. It could be a Texas Brown Snake, (Storerra dekays). But the very young usually have a light ring accross the neck, and get spotts as they get older. Probably not your snake.
4. It could be a Great Plains Ground Snake, (Sonora episcopa). These snakes are highly variable, and some are patternless. They are shiny and usually more orangish, although they come in brown and grey. The Head is Wider than the Neck. Take a look and see if the head is the same width as the neck, or wider. Probably not your snake.
5. It could be a Flat Headed Snake, (Tantilla gracilis). These are grey or brown above, and have a pinkish belly. The Head is No Wider than the Neck.
So, take a closer look. Decide if the scales are smooth and shiny, or dull and have small keels down them. Look at the belly color, is it whitish, or pinkish. Look at the head and neck and see if the head is wider than the neck. Look at the tail and see if it is blunt. You have allready said the nose is blunt, so that rules out the Earth Snake with its pointed nose. Look at the neck and see if there is a light ring or band around the neck. If there is not, it is not a Brown Snake.
Let us know what you find after a closer look ! Hope this helps. Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on May 8, 2005
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Justin: One other slight possibility would be the #6. Smooth Earth Snake, (Virginia valeriae), although it barely ranges into Central Texas.
We really need to know what County in Texas you live in, or what is the nearest town. Some of these small snakes look so similar, you have to count scales to tell one from another. Any small hint of coloration or pattern on the face or body can make a huge difference in the ID. JohnZ
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by Cro on May 9, 2005
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Jimmy: While it does sound like a Worm Snake, if you check your range maps, you will see that the Worm Snake does not live in Central Texas. It if was Alabama, Georgia, or Lousiana, a Worm Snake would be a prime candidate. Unless some Eastern herper lost the snake in Justins shower, it is not a Worm Snake.
The Blind Snake is still the best best choice.
There are just not that many patternless snakes that are 3 inches long in Central Texas. Once Justin tells us where he lives, we can eliminate a couple of other possibilities. My money is still on the Blind Snake.
Best Regards JohnZ
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