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by Crotalus_Catcher on May 9, 2005
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Ok, I've been having a problem with my Gentle Giants not gripping the snake securely enough. It could be that I'm used to the old style of tongs and am not applying enough pressure, but I'm having to squeese as hard as I can to keep the snakes from sliding on through the tongs and I know that can't be right (or good on the snakes). This has happened with coachwhips, ratsnakes and rattlers. Any Ideas? Am I just doing something wrong? Anyone else have this problem? Thanks.
-Scott
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by Rabies on May 10, 2005
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The surface on the gentle giants is very smooth, you may want to try and put some tape on like carpet grip or some thing similar for added traction/friction.
John
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by Dadee on May 10, 2005
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Try dipping the bottom jaw in liquid latex...much like you would do to your own tools (in your shop...not the snake tools)....while you're at it...dip the handles too. You can add a tad bit of course sand to the mix, making an instant gripping surface.
MJ
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by Chris_Harper on May 10, 2005
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I agree with both of the other posters. Based on the species that you have had problems with, you need to increase the friction in the jaws. Go to a hardware store and buy some "tool dip". You can then dip both jaws, and more than once will just make the grip more "rubbery". If that doesn't work, try either cloth tape or foam tape.
~CH
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by Crotalus_Catcher on May 10, 2005
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Thanks for the tips! I have actually already done the handles in "pastidip" because they were too slick when I got them. Never thought about using it on the end. Thanks for the input!
-Scott
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by Phobos on May 10, 2005
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I have a pair a GG Tongs too. I noticed the same problem with large Bitis being able to slid free if they are so inclined. Thanks for the solution to the problem.
On another note: I would like to thank the people at Midwest Tongs for rebuilding my collapsable hook that I've had for a few years NO Charge! That's quality & service few companies deliver.
A very satisfied user.
Al Coritz
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by Dadee on May 12, 2005
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Actually Scott, Al, etal, the GG's are set so that the opening when fully closed, can accomodate those snakes with greater girth than that of a coachwhip. The true intention of the slick bottom jaw is so that the snake can't get a grip with it's caudal scales, and understandingly will just slip on the bottom jaw. Now taking into account you were trying this with Rattlers, I've got to ask, what type?
On a side note, thanks to CH, I originally thought to through out the double dip on the top jaw, but had never actually tried it, now knowing that it only makes it more jellied than anything, I'll try it with a hardening agent.
I've had nothing but great results with my unaltered bottom jaw, but I'll through in that I'm only using it on snakes with larger than a Susan B. Anthony dollar circumference. With that being said, I've not had any mishaps with anything slipping through and I don't put a huge amount of tension on the jaws...just enough for no ribs to be in danger.
Let me know how this idea of the dip works on the bottom jaw. The thought of using something that will aid the snake in getting a grip with it's caudals is something that doesn't seem like what I'd want to do...but hey, who am I to decipher your situation.
Matt
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by BGF on May 12, 2005
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We're using them on agile and extremely mental elapids. Sticking high friction felt really helps get a grip. The elapids here will fly out other wise.
The belly scales gripping has never been an issue.
Cheers
Bryan
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