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Phobos--Gravid Puff = blood ??
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by beef on May 19, 2005
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At a zoo in Poland I noticed a mating pair of Puffs about 3 months ago. I was there again last week and noticed that the same male was still pursuing the same female around the cage. Anyway, he did get her after an hour, but mated briefly. He pulled his hemi penis out of her and it was completely covered with blood. I alerted one of the keepers who after a few minutes misted his hemi penis with water causing the blood to fall off in one slimy gooey mess. It was not his blood, but hers. Could that have been a sign that she is pregnant? Do you think there was damage done to her from this continued mating? I am just curious, because the only answer I got from a couple keepers there was basically sumed up to, " That happens when they are gravid." Al, I am looking to you and anyone else here. You are pretty knowledgable about snakes. Thank you very much!
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RE: Phobos--Gravid Puff = blood ??
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by Phobos on May 19, 2005
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I am by no means an expert in snake breeding since I don't keep species for breeding, except the less common ones. The large Bitis are not in this catagory. It's just a guess but it may have been the "mucus plug" meant to thwart the countinued breeding after fertilization.
All others are welcome to comment.
Al
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RE: Phobos--Gravid Puff = blood ??
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by stopgetinpopped on May 19, 2005
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Bleeding is not uncommon in some snakes after breeding. I have seen copious amounts of blood from large Western and Eastern Diamondbacks, Black Mambas, Taipans and others most notably and the only negative result I've seen was from a pair of Boomslangs. I had a large male and a smaller female copulating on exhibit and something spooked the female (presumably, someone banging on the glass) causing the female to run while attached. The males have nice little "hooks" on the hemipenis. I assumed the male was dragged around until dislodging "tearing" from the female. the female did end up dieing as a result.
The amount of blood was enormous. The cloacal opening on the female was obviously damaged.
Normally, I don't see it as any big deal though.
One must take into account how large a hemipenis is in comparison to the female. I've seen a King Cobra female fill up (swollen double) 12-14 inches with a males hemipenis!
I think I would likely trust in the keepers assessment.
Best Regards,
Terry
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