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Eastern Diamondbacks x Western Diamondbacks
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by emtnurse on August 19, 2005
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Just a curious question, and I am not saying that I would, but has anyone ever been successful breeding an EDB with a WBD?? I am not crazy about cross breeding snakes either, but this is just a curious question. Thanks to all who reply. Bryan
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by cottonmouth on August 19, 2005
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sure have and they seem to take the westerns traights. There are guys that i know that cross westerns with scutes, canebrakes ect. As long as the snakes never leave captivity, I don't see a problem.
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by earthguy on August 19, 2005
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Even if they get out it should be OK. They are different species (Crotalus adamanteus and C. atrox) so their offspring should be sterile. If they're not, the we have a species evaluation to do.
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by BGF on August 19, 2005
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Actually, whether or not they produce offspring able to reproduce is irrelevant as to whether or not they are different species. That is no longer a criterion. Plenty of different species can quite readily hybridise in captivity.
Whether or not they are different species has to do with whether or not there is a natural integrade. If not, then the degree of genetic difference between non-continuous populations comes into play.
If there are variations within a single population with sharp, consistent geographical differences then there might be a case for subspecies. If however the variation is clinal and continuous, as is the case with C. horridus, then it is all one species with no subspecies.
This is all over-course a gross simplification. Things get much messier in reality. Our recent paper on Oz/PNG elapids (black snakes, death adders and taipans) shows some of the variations that can occur as well as showing what a much up some of the classical taxonomy has been. http://www.venomdoc.com/downloads/2004_OzElapids_MPE.pdf
Cheers
Bryan
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by PIGMAN on August 19, 2005
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Hi Bryan , I used to have a atrox /adamanteus hybrid. It was a neat looking snake. looked more like a western than an eastern but it didnt have a black and white coon tail like atrox.
I gave it away. It had a bad attitude and just never turned me on. I like true atrox or adamanteus personally.
Zach Orr
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by emtnurse on August 19, 2005
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Hi Zach, I agree with you also. I do enjoy the true atrox's myself. I have never seen a hybrid before, so I was just curious. I'd say that snake did have a mean attitude!!!! Take care, Bryan.
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by BD713 on August 21, 2005
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I don't agree with cross breeding, but that is just my opinion.
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