|
1-10 of 10 messages
|
Page 1 of 1
|
|
Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by elapidking81 on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
I would like to update you guy about the paper I wrote and karl perfected. The paper was printed in the county paper. I also added a e-mail address (msreptiles@hotmail.com) to the paper to give people some were to ask questions that they need answered regarding reptiles. I have actually had some e-mails asking very good question. As I expected there were some people that disagreed with my letter, and one wrote a response to the paper in the “Letter To The Editor” section . It was not a very nice letter at all. In his letter he raised some question, But one stuck with me and it was, “How many people die each year by rodent bites.” well, not that I will respond but how many people do die a year as a result to disease carried by rodent? Now I am aware that the “Black Death” clamed 25 million lives in 5 years. But what about now? I will add that the letter that he wrote was poorly written, and his statement didn’t really make any sense he clearly didn’t get what I was trying to say. After I read his letter I found out that he was a local lawyer. I guess the saying that education doesn’t equal intelligence makes a lot of sense in this case. Feel that most people will realize that. I would also like to say thank you to Karl, and others for their help in the writing of the paper I submitted. Lastly, I have been approached by many people that really liked the paper and appreciated the information.
Agine thank you all.
Shane Kissinger
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by Buzztail1 on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
Shane,
I am always happy to help where I can.
One point for your support, in November of 2002 two tourists (a husband and wife?) collapsed while visiting in New York City. They were hospitalized and found to have active Bubonic Plague (the Black Plague that killed millions in Europe).
Did they catch this abominable disease from a letter sent by a terrorist? No.
Did they catch it while visiting in some underdeveloped country? No.
They caught it from the fleas on the large concentration of rodents around their home in, I believe, New Mexico.
A Google Search of "Bubonic Plague" will bring up more articles than you have time to read.
Here is a link to one I thought you might find useful:
http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/bubonicplague/a/111602.htm
Please note that it clearly states that Bubonic Plague is still found in the southwestern United States. I wonder what part of the country routinely holds roundups to eradicate the number one controller of rodents since the beginning of recorded history? Rodents killing people? You bet!
Good Luck,
Karl
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by earthguy on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
|
While we're getting rid of dangerous things, we might as well eradicate bees, coconuts, cars, and people. Especially cars and people. I didn't read the original letter, but you have my support in defending hots (and bees and coconuts. Not so much on the cars and people).
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by Snake18 on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
Let`s not forget mosquitos that kill up to 3 million people a year threw malaria and yelow fever.
Best regards, Alex S.
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by Buzztail1 on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
I think you guys kind of missed the point.
Eradicating snakes will do nothing to:
1) The mosquito population - they will still carry malaria and will still infect people with whatever blood carried disease with which they come into contact.
2) Coconuts will still fall on unwary people who unwittingly stand under coconut trees and look up with mouth agape.
3) Bees will still gather honey and will ocassionally sting the unwary traveler while doing so. Some bees will even seek out people to sting on their way from the very hot regions of the world into more temperate americas.
4) Cars? Well, let's see . . . They are operated by people and eradicating snakes will remove those animals best able to control rodent populations thereby enabling a rodent population explosion much like what happened in Europe during the "dark ages" with the attempted eradication of all animals considered to be witches' familiars (owls, cats, etc). The resultant population explosion would culminate with the uncontrolled spread of diseases (Hanta Virus, Bubonic Plague, etc) which are transmitted from rodentia by their fleas. Thus we have a dramatic drop in the human population and thereby have fewer car operators and finally . . . fewer cars.
5) People? See above.
The "argument" was not that snakes aren't dangerous - they are.
It wasn't that there aren't everyday things that are as dangerous or more dangerous than snakes - there are.
It was that the eradication of snakes would create a situation that is worse than that created by co-existing with the snakes in the first place.
Karl
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by Phobos on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
How about getting rid of all of the politicians in the Country. They are a very dangerous bunch.
Al
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by timberrattlesnake89 on September 21, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
The haunta virus is the most prevalent in the southwest. Sure there is a few here and there cases of bubonic plague but the number is a lot higher when it comes to the haunta. Now there is still a great number of cases of the bubonic plague mostly in the Asia. The one country that does come to mind that seems that it is still prevalent in is India. Also I think people forgot about lymes disease and rocky mountain spotted fever than are prevalant through ticks. Sure the death toll is not very high but still it can cause damage. John Zegal(Cro) got lymes a few years back and has lost all his hearing one ear and lost most in the other. Their of course many other animal to people spread diseases like ebolia which started in monkeys and now in humans.
Phillip
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by earthguy on September 22, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
|
I agree. My comments were tongue-in-cheek. I just find it interesting what dangerous things people (in general) are willing to live with, and which things they aren't. I apologise if my sarcasm didn't translate.
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by psilocybe on September 22, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
Bubonic plague (the "black death") is alive and well down here in New Mexico, as Karl pointed out with the story about the NY tourists. It exists rather plentifully in the local rodent populations. In addition, we also have rather healthy (or not so healthy for us ;) ) "populations" of Hunta virus existing here. Both primarily exist in the rural or agricultural areas, which is where the rats are most common.
New Mexico is also one of the few states that still has a rattlesnake roundup (go figure). I'm continually telling people that in 20 or so years, we will pay the price for our selfish brutality, when the rodents run rampant and unregulated and New Mexico begins to resemble Europe in the Dark Ages...if you get my drift.
|
| |
|
RE: Letter update and question
|
Reply
|
|
by elapidking81 on September 24, 2005
|
Mail this to a friend!
|
I remember when I lived in Albuquerque there were some people that died from the Bubonic plague, also I live there when the hunta virus made its mark up around four corners if I remember right I was only 11 or 12 so its been a few years. A couple of days ago I ask some people what they thought about, If all the snakes in the world vanished what would we do about the rodents and both people said, "oh its ok we can just put out more chemicals." Yes, thats excactly what this world needs is more chemicals.
shane
|
| |
|
Email Subscription
You are not subscribed to this topic.
Subscribe!
My Subscriptions
Subscriptions Help
Check our help page for help using
, or send questions, comments, or suggestions to the
Manager.
|
