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by DixieBanjo on September 23, 2005
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I really would like to start herp hunting a lot when I move to Haymarket Virginia.Im gonna have ten acres,a creek,woods,field,and the bull run mountains right behind my house.I think I have some pretty good snake habitat both in my property and in places close by.But I dont know about the snakes! Are there enough snakes around here to actually spend time looking for them?Or are there few here?And what kinds can I expect to find?Are timbers and copperheads common here...........or is it rat snake and garter territory mostly?Regardless of how rare the coppers and rattlers are,Ill probably still look for them.But I would like to have some idea of the territory before I spend any money on new hooks or anything.Any help is greatly appreciated........and Id love to hear about or see pics of what you northern virginians are catching.
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by Dadee on September 24, 2005
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Billy,
Send me e-mail and I'll show you some good places out there. I grew up just west of Haymarket in Fauquier County...lots of foothill country around there for herps.
I'm out that way at least every other weekend.
Later,
Matt
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by Dadee on September 24, 2005
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Billy,
Where are you from? What are you used to seeing? Why would you need to invest in hooks? Have you ever handled vens before? After looking further into your comments, I'm curious.
Bull Run Mountain behind your newly acquired property is notorious for rattlers, coppers and just about all of the native salamanders (some of which I don't believe have been documented...but since this isn't my area of interest, I haven't chose to pursue it), a plethora of other animal life can be found there as well. Being that you're in Prince William Co., I'd check your ordinances prior to "investing" into some new equipment.
Here's another suggestion, fill out that profile a little more.
Matt
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by DixieBanjo on September 24, 2005
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Im from Alexandria.Id have to buy a hook because I havent gone after venomous snakes for years and dont have a hook anymore.Theres not too many in alexandria........and you dont need a hook to pick up a garter.A $40 hook isnt a major investment,I know,I was just curious if its worth herping out there.If theres nothing to find other than a few black snakes and racers an such..........Id rather spend my energy deer hunting.I heard from a relative(80+years old) that there used to be tons of timbers in the area.And Ive hear from another relative that theres very few timbers around these days.It has changed for sure.50 years ago there were oodles of coppers and rattlers.......and very few deer.Now you cant look out the window without seeing deer.As far as my previous experience,Ive handled quite a few coppers, some timbers as well as a few diamond back rattlers out in arizona.
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by reticbite on September 24, 2005
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Yeah dadee know's his stuff,but if he asked you to camping and to bring lube, It's not for probing snakes!!! LOL
Chris
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by Dadee on September 25, 2005
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Yeah Chris...bring that lube and uh, uh, a burlap bag, yeah, yeah that's it, that's the ticket, a burlap bag. Ha ha ha.
Yeah Alexandria isn't known for them snakes...unless you're speaking of the politicians.
That relative (80 y.o.) is quite right about the numbers. That's not to say there aren't any. I responded to a fire that was on Bull Run Mountain back in the 80's...burnt up some timber, let me tell ya. Most of the fire fighters were up to their necks in rattlers, so bad, we had to bring in 4 wheelers to prevent walking through the infestation. That fire burned for 3 days, but was finally contained.
As for the coppers, well they're still quite active out there. Shoot, you can still find them as close into the district as McLean...but out where you're talking about, they're thick. If you have 10 acres, you're going to find some coppers, no doubt, timbers, well that's a horse of a different color. Since the late 80's, I've yet to hear from anyone out in PW finding any in that county. If you come a little closer to the Fauquier line, down 66, there's Thoroughfare gap...backs right up onto Bull Run Mtn...there's your timbers.
Lemme know what you intend to do, I can show you some of the back roads that will lead you right out to where we went up that mountain with 4 wheelers when the place was all lit up.
Cheers,
Matt
P.S. don't mind the asscobra (reticbite), he gets a little jealous from time to time :-) It's ok Chris, I'LL SHOW YOU some attention soon...ha ha ha ha
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