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by GREGLONGHURST on October 1, 2005
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According to my range maps, the timber does not occur in S. Dakota. That state does have the Praire Rattlesnake, & that is the only species I can find in a couple of books for that state. The only rattlesnake Stebbins shows in eastern Washington is the northern pacific. I hope this helps, but I am curious as to why you figured the timber to be in Sdak.
~~Greg~~
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by Buzztail1 on October 1, 2005
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Greg IS right on the money.
One of the interesting things to note is that locally (where they occur) both the Prairie Rattlesnake and the Northern Pacific Rattlesnake are often called Timber Rattlesnakes.
I have even heard Southern Pacific Rattlesnakes called Timber Rattlesnakes by people who know nothing about snakes and who have never travelled beyond their own specific locality.
Just one of the reasons posting location of the snake is such a big deal. You can never expect someone who is asking the identity of a snake to know the scientific names of the snakes in their area and thus it falls to us to figure them out through range maps.
Just a little sideline ramble,
Karl
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by MoccasinMan on October 1, 2005
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Nice work Karl and Greg. Being from the east I never knew anything but horridus was called a timber. I enjoy locality names... even though they can cause confusion.
Andrew
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by Dadee on October 2, 2005
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Andrew,
If you like that kind of thing, check out Campbell and Lamar's VRWH volumes...they include these in the beginning of each species description and range info. It's a small section called appropriately, Local Names.
Cheers,
MJ
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