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Snakebite Symposium Update day 2
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by Phobos on October 22, 2005
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It's late but I wanted to at least hit you with some tidbits from todays session:
Copperheads seen as a good beginner snake leaves bite victims with the highest incidence of permenent disability out of all the US snakes.
A monovalent A/V for Helleri is being considered because CroFab & Wyeth don't neutralize all of the venom components. Helleri is now considered to be the HOTTEST of the US Rattlesnakes by many of these experts.
Calloselasma rhodostoma causes the most deaths within it's natural range in Thailand & Maylasia, another very HOT snake.
N. nigricollis seldom/never shows neurotoxcity in human which is no consolation considering your limb will rot off in short order.
The experts here are in agreement the way to treat a snakebite is with A/V and NOT a Faciotomy which is very good news.
Got to love Dr. Warrell's sense of humor and his depth of knowledge. One of my favorites was in his talk about his visit to Peru and the snakes there: " Snakes are not just in Peru for decoration, they really bite people" Having spent much time in Africa Dr. Warrell was teasing Dr. Bush & Dr. Fry about the snakes in their countries. " Black Mambas " This is a real snake."
Our mate Dr. Bryan Fry told of an Squam (Atheris) bite that was nearly fatal but left the fellow with permently wrecked Kidneys and a need for Renal Dialysis. Not such a "mild bite" as we think...basically he said "your screwed" No effective A/V
That's all for tonight,
Al
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by Rabies on October 22, 2005
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Considering his world wide authority in snake bite treatment, Prof Warrell is a reall down to earth type guy. I've all ways stated that Helleri is a "hot" snake after reading bite cases and listening to Dr Bush. Lack of neurotoxicity in spitting cobras (Naja) has been well documented in the past. The points that you have been high lighting Al are very interesting, and I wish I was there. I do feel though that if private keepers took some time to research their animals capabilities (I know I take it to the extreme) that some of the points should be common knowledge. If you get bitten by an exotic snake 99.9% of the time, you and your protocols will be guiding the attending physician on what to do until he/she has had time to seek out professional help.
John
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by Chris_Harper on October 24, 2005
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Dr. Bush's raw video of some of his worst snakebite patients was the highlight for several people that I spoke with. The fellow with the glossal angioedema or "swollen tongue" for lay people, was riveting. Caused again, by a helleri bite.
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by Rabies on October 24, 2005
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That would of been a very interesting video. I'm going to have to save some cash and go to the next one in 2years, I believe? The wife has given me permission LOL.
John
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