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Can you help to ID these snakes?
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by petra on July 4, 2007
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These snakes are not in my possession so I cannot tell the scale count or answer any questions about them. All I have are these pictures.
The deal is a friend of mine (not from US) owns them. He thought they are C. albolabris. I'm not so sure because I used to keep those and mine looked different as far as I can remember. I cannot compare since I sold mine about a year ago. I never bred them so I have no idea what newborn C. albolabris look like. I know for sure my female had no stripe.
His adult female has a yellow stripe. His pair produced offspring and the young males have very dark, hard to tell exact color, stripe under the white stripe. It's almost black. The adult male pretty much lost it and has just the white stripe with only a darker shade underneath it.
Here are the pictures: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=134720214&albumId=861862
Any help will be appreciated!
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by petra on July 4, 2007
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I figured it will be the easiest to upload the pictures to myspace album, but somehow even though I set the settings on public, only people with myspace account will see them. So I found a different place I could upload them.
Here it is - hope this works better:
http://www.photolava.com/code/3nz4,3nz5,3nz6,3nz7,3nz8,3nz9,3nza,3nzb,3nzc,3nzd.html">10%20Photos%20at%20PhotoLava.com
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by GREGLONGHURST on July 5, 2007
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That's Pope's tree viper, Trimeresurus (or whatever that genus is now) popeorum. It is a fairly common pit viper from a wide range, including n.e. India, Burma (or whatever that's called now), & much of the Malay Peninsula & Indonesia. It was named for the famous American herpetologist Clifford Pope.
~~Greg~~
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by petra on July 5, 2007
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Yeah, they have been reclassified. It is now Popeia popeiorum.
Anyways I thought that male pope's viper has a white and under it red stripe which is also often visible behind the eye except the red goes first and white under it. Also females have a white stripe.
Are there different color variants? I have never kept pope's vipers, so I don't have pictures I could compare. And pics online I don't trust, 50% of them are IDed wrong.
I think that the nasal and supralabial scale is fused together in C. albolabris unlike P. popeiorum. Or is it the other way round? The scales are nicely visible on the picture.
However I know there are other species that may have them fused or not so it doesn't help much.
I guess you can tell I'm totally confused. :)
Thanks for your help!
Petra
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