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by SnakeEyes2006 on August 26, 2007
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I was talking to a guy that said that a local taxadermist watched a Timber Rattler get hit by a car, so he jumped out of his car to retreive the snake (so he could stuff it) anyways he was looking the specimen over (handling it) and then stuffed it in his cooler for the trip home. The next morning when he woke his forarm was black as night and swollen. When he got to hospital the only thing that the doctors could tell him is that he had been envenomated with out getting bit, they said that Venomous snakes sometimes bite themselves which would have left venom on the snakes skin and when he handled it would have transfered it to his skin which got absorbed?! Does this make since to you all? Or would he only get envenomated if he had some sort of scrath on his arm? I am by no means an expert! And come here for education, so please do not think I am some ding-dong. I told this guy I would ask, then when I get the answer I would print it off for him, since now we want to tell the taxedermist, the doctor. Thanks in advance.. Shawn
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by JHarrison on August 26, 2007
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The doctors know nothing about envenomations and could not tell the person that they were envenomated without being bitten. More information on the medical side is needed . Also the person telling the story would have to be checked over by someone that knows what to look for.
Jim Harrison
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by munge on August 26, 2007
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i always thought venom proteins were too large to absorb into the skin and that's why an opening was required. i've had venom on my skin a few times while trying to force feed and not had an issue. if i had cuts or anything, i'd always use gloves as a precaution.
i don't see how anyone could sleep through an envenomation and just "wake up with it". sounds like a totally made up story.
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by LarryDFishel on August 26, 2007
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Yeah, are you absolutely sure your friend didn't hear it from another friend who heard it from the guy at the bait shop who...?
I've had various venoms on my skin and never had a problem (although I did wash it off as soon as possible). It's hard to imagine that even with a cut on his arm he would absorb that much.
The most suspicios thing about the story is the thing about dying rattlers biting themselves. While I'm sure a dying rattler has, on occasion, reflexively bitten the next thing to touch it (itself), this is mostly an old wives tale.
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by GREGLONGHURST on August 26, 2007
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If he was envenomated, he was bitten. Venom on the skin is not a problem, even with scratches. Some part of this is not right..either from the taxidermist or from the attending physician.
The only other thing I can think of is an allergic reaction to venom. Not likely, but not impossible.
~~Greg~~
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by SnakeEyes2006 on August 26, 2007
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Ok, all I know is what the person telling me said, so I really have no clue. But I have seen D.O.R snakes on the road that have in fact turned and bitten themselves, so that senario is not compleatly out. But I also have heard that venom that has dried or even absorbed into your handling equipment is still venom, and is still very dangerous,so I just figured I would ask the question, I have not had the priveledge to talk to the taxedermist myself, so in a way yes it is just a story from a person who knew a person, but with that said, I can still print all this and show the story teller all the coments made on it.
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