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by FLherp on August 31, 2007
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There are some in Europe, I believe wolves and squirrels are the most discussed. It is certainly not a one-way street. The most familiar to people are the mammals. Insects, plants and other species are distributed around the world by international commerce, with the intent of using them for pest control, etc.
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by AquaHerp on August 31, 2007
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African clawed frogs (Xeonpus) are quite prevalent in California waterways. These are also nailed as the cause of the spread of the Chytrid fungus issue worldwide.
DH
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by Puma3 on August 31, 2007
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Are there any documented cases of cobras or any other hot exoctic snake sightings in Florida?
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by FLherp on August 31, 2007
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Have you followed any of the links provided above or read any of my previous posts? If not, perhaps you will do it after reading this one. A simple answer to your question is no.
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by Buzztail1 on August 31, 2007
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No need to get testy, Jeff.
Yes, there have been documented cases of exotic venomous snakes found on the loose in Florida.
In 1982, a woman who lived on the edge of the Everglades came out and started her car and was backing down the driveway when she noticed something on the driveway. She got out of her car to find 2 neonate cobras of undescribed subspecies. That made the news in 1982. I was hunting snakes in the Everglades at the time.
There have been a couple of Animal Planet shows that showed people (Animal Cops? Animal Rescue?) catching cobras that had gotten loose from someone's collection. To my recollection, all of the animals that got loose were found.
As for breeding populations of US indigenous animals overseas:
Green Anoles are now established on Guam and Bermuda.
The Brahminy Blind Snake is established all over the world.
The "Cane" Marine Toad is established in Florida, Guam, Bermuda and everywhere else they get taken to.
As for US venomous snakes established overseas - none reported yet.
Karl H. Betz
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by Puma3 on September 1, 2007
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Has snyone heard of an actual case of a hot escaping on board an international flight or cargo ship?
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by FLherp on September 1, 2007
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The Animal Cops Miami episode featured Albert Killian "finding" a King Cobra "loose" in South Dade - it was a recreation of an event, kind of like "based on a true story." I can state that to the best of my knowledge there have been no documented sightings of venomous snakes in Florida that were not associated with a reported escape. There are no known breeding populations of exotic venomous reptiles in the US or its territories (unless you wish to count the mildly venomous brown snake). This information is available from the invasive species working group - a coalition of government agencies that document and track introduced and invasive species in the US and it's territories. I did not get the information from "The Sun" or "The National Enquirer".
I suppose if the escapee were seen by someone that would constitute a sighting, but that was not the intent of the inquiry - Are exotics breeding in the wild in the US? As of today, there are no known, documented breeding populations of exotic venomous reptiles in the US or its territories in the wild.
The report from 1982 is dubious as well, unless the animals were captured or seen by someone knowledgeable, I would be skeptical of the identification as unknown cobra species. I have responded to cobras in the yard, the cobra commonly found in Florida is coluber constrictor - it has alternately been identified as a black mamba after an exhaustive google image search by the witness. People in Florida have also seen UFOs, Bigfoot and the Skunk Ape (right around the late 70s early 80s). Those who have seen these animals should refrain from drinking the bong water.
The links were provided so that the most reliable original sources could be used to verify what I stated. Continuing the same line of questioning seemed to indicate that these sources were not used. They are rather dry, but get right to the crux of the question and answer it.
I will try and gather some more information from other agencies and post it when I receive it.
Karl, I was more petulant than testy.
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by FLVenom911 on September 1, 2007
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In October of 2006, Jeff and I got called by our local FWC officer to come and help capture a loose Black Mamba in this persons yard. Well, we get there, poked around, nothing was found of course. After talking with homeowner for a while, trying to sort the mess out, it was determined he was watching too much National Geographic, and definitely needs to lay off the pipe. The culprit, a Black Racer.
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by FLherp on September 1, 2007
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A man recently flew from Lima, Peru to Florida and on to New York with a Marmoset under his hat, some snakes are probably smuggled in similar fashion. There are probably some venomous among them - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/11/tech/main3159076.shtml?source=RSSattr=SciTech_3159076
Grey Rat Snake on a Plane -
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/5082536.html
More snakes on a plane -
http://www.usatoday.com/life/2006-08-14-snakes_x.htm
Even More -
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20575121-3102,00.html
Rat (mouse?)on a Plane -
http://gridskipper.com/travel/los-angeles/rats-on-snakes-on-a-plane-165538.php
Nat'l Geo on Snakes on Planes -
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060814-snakes-plane.html
I think that's enough for now.
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