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by natedog08 on September 8, 2007
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I cannot believe it, i COMPLETELY forgot about this site. And the email i got from Cro, i just got it today, and it was dated long ago.
I started school again last week, but i still go up the mountian once and awhile. I've gotten my friends into the hobby! So after school, we rush through our homework (I know we shouldn't, but...) and hike up the mountain. Well, half the mountain now. >:-(
One side of it is being ripped apart for a new WalMart. I new i never liked walmart. I was just looking at how many tree's they're cutting down, they marked them all with orange spray paint. There must be at least 300 tree's with orange spray paint on them.
My friends and i sent numerous articals to the local news paper, but i don't think Walmart cares.
Now we are trying to Re-Locate as many animals as we can, like different species of snakes, salamanders, they kind of animals that won't be able to run a long distance to avoid being run over by trackters. The actual building doesn't start for another month or two, and they havn't posted any "Keep out" signs yet. So until then, we will keep going at it.
Any tips? Are we doing the animals a favor? Or are we just killing them by moving them?
Anyway, it's nice to post a long thread again, and nice to be back.
Nate
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by Cro on September 8, 2007
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Nate,
Good to see that you made it back to the site.
I think you are right, Walmart dosent seem to care about trees or animals or destroying the land.
If you find snakes and lizards and frogs and turtles on the Walmart side of the mountain, and move them to the other side of the same mountain, or close by, it would probably be ok. You do not want to move them to a way off area though, as that is how animal diseases get spread from one population to another.
There is the possibility that the other side of the mountain has the right numbers of animals already there to match the food available. When you add a few new animals, it will cause some more competition for food, and perhaps the whole population of animals might have to eat less for a while. That is the good thing about being a reptile though, as they can go a long time without too much food.
But going with a bit less food is not going to kill the animals, and it is way better than getting squished by a bulldozer !
Some of the animals that are more mobile like snakes, lizards, and turtles can travel several miles in a years time, so if they feel that they are overcrowded, they will probably move from where you put them to an area where there is more food.
Good Luck with the project Nate, hope you and your friends are able to save a few of the critters before they are Walmarted to death !
Best Regards JohnZ
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by natedog08 on September 8, 2007
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Yeah, i agree.
Now trust me on this one, i know my side of the mountain very well. There is a creek, and then it turns into a little pound. In that pond, there is 3 box turtles, 1 alligator snapping turtle, at least 10 trout, and some blue gill, that i know of. I found a couple more box turtle's, on the walmart side, and i don't know if i should put them along with the others in the pond, or not. But i found a couple rainbow trout along the walmart side, and i just let them go. I figured walmart wouldn't do anything to them.
But anyway, i didn't usually spend much time on the other side of the mountain, so i might find sometings i never saw.
I hope my luck changes some time soon...
i'll check back later...
Nate
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by GREGLONGHURST on September 8, 2007
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Nate: Welcome back & I wish you well with the herp transfer project. My question to you is this: Is the snapper in the pond an alligator snapper (Macroclemys temmincki), or is it a common snapper, Chelydra serpentina? I suspect that it is the latter because the former is a turtle generally found in rivers rather than creeks or ponds. A lot of people incorrectly call all snappers alligator turtles or alligator snappers & do not seem to understand the difference. The common snapper reaches a maximum size of about 18" & 35 pounds (unless fattened in captivity), while the alligator snapper averages 35 to 150 pounds, with the record being around 220.
~~Greg~~
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by Stinkfoot74 on September 9, 2007
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Good to see some one ( I assume a young person) who gives a rip. You could also starte a small collection your self if you wanted. It is hard but I remember WAYYY back when they started to build I-45 ware I lived in Houston I did the same thing (relocating the animals). I had a butt load of Anoles and managed to get bitten by a copper head in the process. Good luck and have fun! Good to meet you (as I am new).
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by natedog08 on September 14, 2007
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Oh, it's not a alligator snapper, just a common snapper.
Still, no word on the actual date of development. And, i've been a member for a long time, i just forgot completely about the site, for the guy who posted last. It's nice to see some new faces.
One reason i stopped checking the site a while back was because people would ask nonsence questions. It just wasn't fun. But i see that there are some new faces, and people who care.
I will try to check the site regularly.
Nate
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