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by hapkidocrochunter on October 18, 2007
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is this still around? I am trying to find there cages, the ones with the sloped face for easy viewing, or the locking hinged door units with the shift cage dividers.
if anyone knows of a dealer that sells these, let me know. I kinda want to stay away from the vision cages. the lip on the inside of the cage bothers me, esp if there are gonna be hots in there. plus the sliding glass, i don't want to have to make "adjustments" on a cage that i am already spending an arm and a leg for.
thanks for your response.
matt
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by Cro on October 18, 2007
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Matt, unfortunatly, the Bush Herpetological Cages (aka Neodesha Cages)are no longer being built.
You can sometimes find used ones in the Classifieds at this site, and I will have about 20 of the 24 inch size for sale at the upcoming Columbia Reptile Show in November.
I am hoping to bring a similar cage back on the market in 2008, under the Wood Creek Cages name. I have been working with plastics manafacturing companies on the design, and am making progress in eventually setting up a business to build that type of cage design again.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on October 18, 2007
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Tom and Karl, yep, the cages that I am bringing to sell are the slant front 24 inch size Neodeshas. Some of these have the litter dams but most do not.
What has happened to these cages is that over time, the plastic channel that the glass slides in has become slightly warped with age. This causes the original tempered glass that is 3/16 inch thick to be a very tight fit, and not slide very well.
I had a glass company cut replacement glass 1/8 inch thick (double stringth) to replace the original glass. This makes a glass front that slides quite well in the old plastic chanell, however, it is not tempered glass, and does not have the holes drilled on each side. They did polish the edges of the glass, and it cost me $6.00 a sheet.
The plastic shells of the cages, and the screen vents are still in very good shape.
The glass issue will mean that you will have to secure the glass by taping it on each side, or using some kind of clamp on each side. If you have a snake that is likely to push against the glass with its nose, and slide it open, like a ratsnake, or a very dangerous snake like an elapid, this would be important.
I have however used these cages without taping the glass with my Pygmy Rattlesnakes and Copperheads and Cottonmouths, and have never had a snake push a untaped cage open. There is enough resistance to the glass sliding that it works well.
Overall, I think most of these cages still have a good 10 years use to them, as the plastic is not very brittle or discolored, and the slightly thinner glass seems to work well. Some are better than others, and it would be best to sort through them at the show to find the best in the bunch. I will probably price the best of them at around $25.00 each, and the ones with some issues will probably be priced at $20.00 each.
Also, if you wanted to, you could purchase one of those drill bitts for glass and set the glass on a flat surface and use a very slow turning drill to drill new holes in the side of the glass to line up with the holes in the side of the cage. I have been a bit reluctant to do this with a hand held electric drill, as I am sure there would be some breakage in the process. If you had a slow turning drill press with a wood base to set the glass on, it might work well. I just dont know, as I have never tried to drill holes in glass.
They are still good cages, but are probably 12 years old.
If I bring this type of cage back to market, I hope to use a much stronger channel for the glass to slide in, so that we do not have the warpage issues that we saw in the earlier Neodesha and Bush Cages as they aged. The very last Bush Cages that were made used a thick Nylon chanell for the glass and that seemed to work rather well. I think a couple of the cages I am bringing have that type of glass slide.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on May 20, 2010
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This is the link to their new cages:
http://www.npicages.com/
Best Regards
John Z
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