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by FSB on October 19, 2007
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Howdy folks... Does anyone have firsthand experience with non-toxic, natural anti-mite and tick sprays such as DeFlea Reptile Relief, etc? Do they really work? I am a husbandry consultant at a veterinary clinic and am looking for new remedies I can recommend to clients that are easier than slathering snakes in olive oil and bleaching the cages, or safer and more effective than using Dichlorvos strips.
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Fred Boyce
Boyce-Holland Veterinary Service
Stuart, VA
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by Cro on October 19, 2007
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Frederick, take a look at this thread from earlier this month:
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/31612
Read what I had to say about a couple of products in that thread. While no product strong enough to kill mites can be considered "non toxic," if the product is used correctly, the danger to the animals being treated is minimal. The products mentioned have been used by many keepers, including myself, for many years with no problems.
Remember though, that there is always the possibility of an animal Species being hyper-sensitive to a particular chemical. If you search the literature, you will find references to neurological damage being caused in certain animals by use of the vapona no pest strips.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on October 19, 2007
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Also, I would have to question the use of the DeFlea Reptile Relief product in being a effective killer of mites on snakes.
It surely will not kill them on contact, as its own literature states "De Flea Pet Spray contains dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate and undecyclenic acid to soften the waxy exoskeleton of fleas, ticks, lice, mites and other harmful insects until the internal organs are saturated and the insect quickly dies."
Well " Dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate (DSS) is an anionic detergent that is used widely as a laxative."
And Undecyclenic Acid is used to treat fungal infections of the skin.
Mites, ticks, lice, and fleas are mighty tough animals. Using a detergent that is supposed to soak through their skins and kill them sounds mostly like wishfull thinking. How are you going to maintain contact with the product and the mite long enough for the stuff to soak in?
The folks who make the product you mentined do not list any scientific tests to proove that it works.
About 90% of the pet supply products like that are junk. Things designed to make money for the producers, and are rarely tested. The markup is thousands of times the manafacturing costs.
I have never tried the mentioned product, but would not waste my money on it.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by vampire on October 20, 2007
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Just how effective it is on mites, I don`t know. I have used it on a lot of snakes, WC or CB bought at the HOT shows. I have NEVER seen a mite in my snake room, but I am pretty picky with cleaning and disinfecting my enclosures and racks. But I have always given new animals a nice soak in room temp water, don`t know if it helps or not, seems not to hurt. But Reptile Relief WILL kill ants! And quickly I might add. During certain times of year, usually really dry, ants always show up, not just in the snake room, but in other rooms as well. Being afraid to use anything really harsh, I always spray the ants with the Reptile Relief, and it works. So it is effective in that regard.
Best regards,
Mike
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