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RE: How fast can both mambas kill humans?
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by Cro on March 11, 2008
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Danny, if a snake bite goes directly into a blood vessel, and carries the venom directly to the heart, lungs, or brain, it is possible that a snake bite can kill someone within a few minutes.
Even if the bite is into mussle tissue, the bite of a mamba can kill someone without treatment in as little as 30 or 40 minutes, or up to 3 or 4 hours.
There are many variables on any snake bite, as in how much venom was injected, what tissues it was injected into, what first aid was used, what part of the body the bite was on, how much the person weighs, and the health of the person bitten.
For instance, the bites of Elapids can be contained with compression bandaging, if they are on an arm or leg, and this can give someone a lot more time to get to antivenom. If the bite is on the trunk of the body, then compression bandaging is not possible, and there is no way to slow the spread of venom. Mambas are known to often make multiple bites on persons bodies, which makes their bite very dangerous.
Every snake bite is dangerous, and every snake bite is different. They can range from a dry bite, with no venom injected, to getting a full dose of venom. So the amount of venom in a bite could vary 100 fold. You really can not pin down "always" answers to a question like that.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by tj on March 11, 2008
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Guinness has a black mamba at 9 minutes from a bite to a vein. That's probably a one time thing. Don't know about greens or the subs. I would think any mamba could drop you in 30 minutes or so. Quicker than the Domino's pizza guy will get there.
It's really an answer that could be hard to find, but it would be pretty safe to say mamba's will probably kill you the quickest, even with a subQ bite.
I just read about the young UK man who was bitten in SA and went into a coma in 20 minutes. Sad stuff.
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by tigers9 on March 11, 2008
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/11/nsnake111.xml
UK student dies after snake bite in South Africa
By Sophie Borland and Sebastian Berger in South Africa
Last Updated: 3:05pm GMT 11/03/2008
A British wildlife student has died after being bitten by a deadly black mamba snake on a safari training course in South Africa.
· British backpacker dies on flight home
Nathan Layton, 28, was bitten by the reptile at the Southern African Wildlife College close to the Kruger National Park, where he was training to become a field guide.
Nathan Layton, 28, was in South Africa with his girlfriend Laura Woolley
Lecturers at the college had captured the black mamba - the second largest poisonous snake in the world - in the wild and were planning to show it to the students as part of an interactive lesson.
The staff were in the process of trying to transfer the reptile from a container into a larger bottle so it would be easier to study. It is thought that Mr Layton was waving his arms to encourage the snake to move when it suddenly rose up and bit him on the finger.
At first he did not think any poison had been injected into his skin and after a quick examination by members of staff, who are all trained first aiders, they decided to continue with the lecture.
About 20 minutes later Mr Layton suddenly complained his vision had become blurred and he collapsed into a coma from which he never recovered.
Mr Layton, from Wing, near Leighton Buzzard, Beds, had flown out to South Africa with his girlfriend Laura Woolley, 23, in January and the couple had been hoping to stay there for a year. The attack happened last Tuesday.
Miss Woolley, is thought to have remained in South Africa and Mr Layton's parents Ann and Robert Layton, also from Leighton Buzzard, are making preparations for his body to be returned home.
Jacqui Edwards, Mr Layton's aunt, yesterday described him as a "genuinely loving, caring person with such a warm heart", but said "within minutes" of the bite, he was dead.
Ironically Mr Layton names Steve Irwin, the Australian wildlife expert who died after being pierced by a sting ray, as one of his heroes on a social networking site.
He also says he "loves fishing, walking in the countryside, and wildlife".
A spokesman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office confirmed next of kin had been informed of the death and the British consulate were assisting in the process.
Mr Layton had enrolled on a course run by Bushwise, a company offering to train people to become safari field guides which was being run at the South African Wildlife College.
Participants spend six months in the African bush and six months on a game reserve where they learn skills such as shooting, 4x4 driving and bush knowledge such as conservation, reserve management, geology and animal behaviour.
Students are exposed to dangerous wildlife such as elephants, lions, rhinos, leopards cheetahs and hippos and at the end of the course they are qualified to be employed as guides on South Africa's main game reserves.
It is not known how many people are killed by black mambas each year but its is regarded as Africa’'s deadliest snake as it’s poison can kill a human being within minutes. It is also the world's fastest snake and can travel at speeds of up to 12.5 mph.
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by boomslangandrew on March 12, 2008
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Daniel, in my opinon the black mambas venom can kill within 8-15 minutes of envenomation. it depends where you were bitten how much venom was injected and how close you are to medical assistance.
see you at school
andrew
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