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by Gabino on September 1, 2008
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I know this is a venomous reptile forum, but I have a little problem. On the outside of my back door leading to the back yard I have four black widows near the door. I go this way everyday to the garage to do laundry. Seeing as how black widow venom is fairly dangerous, I would like to not get bit. I don't like killing them, so I was hoping for an alternative method in removing them. Would animal control work? If not, does anyone know of any other alternative methods? Thanks in advance.
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by Brutus1175 on September 1, 2008
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Animal Control probably wo'nt get involved in this. As far as any kind of insecticide, I'm not sure. However, spiders in general like it dark and they like to be hidden, so make sure the walkway is clean, put shoes away as they love to crawl in and hide in them, and keep the area swept. This spider is'nt going to jump out at ya, so just watch where you step, and check the inside of your shoes before you put them on. I am not an expert, but I do live in the Southwest, and we do see them, usually in woodpiles, shoes, leafpiles, etc... Best of luck. You might also try an exterminator.
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by pitbulllady on September 2, 2008
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Black Widows are actually very passive creatures, and they're easy to catch due to the fact that their normal defense is to roll into a ball and drop from the web, playing dead with the skills of a Hognose Snake! Get a plastic deli cup, one of the deeper ones, with a snap-on lid, place the open container under the spider as it hangs in the web, and gently come down over it with the lid, and you've got it contained. I actually caught several during the summer and I'm now keeping them along with some 60+ other inverts, mostly tarantulas and scorpions. If you want to keep them, put a few twigs in the container, just making sure that the twigs don't make it to the top, and the spider will web between them and just hang out.
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by Phobos on September 3, 2008
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I like the "pitbulllady" idea which is like my method I used to deal with them at my house in Tucson. I would catch several a week in my night forays around my property and just relocate them. If you use an exterminator you will kill all sorts of insects including the targets. A few weeks later they will be back. They only bite if you molest them when there is an egg case in the web, otherwise they will be totally passive like "Pitbulllady" said.
Al
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by Crotalusssp on September 3, 2008
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I had a population in my garage a few years ago. They were very easy to catch with a small rubbermaid container. I 2 to some woods down the road. I kept one BIG female (they were all female that I found) for a few weeks for amusement/observation. I let her go in a different patch of woods. They really are not what I would consider to be aggressive. I have had a few in the past come into contact with my hands working with firewood and pallets outdoors, but have never been bitten. Once I removed those three females, I have not really seen anymore in my garage. Might be some there, I just do not worry too much about them. The ones I removed were obvious by the garage door rails. Once you remove the obvious ones, the population "seems" to reduce itself.
Good Luck
Charles
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by Cro on September 3, 2008
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Where I live, Black Widow Spideys are quite common. I can go out and find 30 or 40 of them in a day without much problem. Someone who reads water meters here can see hundreds of them in a days work.
It really is amazing that I have never been bitten by one, but that is probably due to their mild nature as others have stated.
Still, it freaks me out a bit when one dropps off of a piece of firewood and starts crawling up my leg or arm.
One interesting thing about Black Widows, is that they used to be found often in country outhouses. Folks would sit down, and jiggle the web, and get bitten on parts "down under."
Now days, old wooden outhouses are scarce, except for hunting camps and such, so that type of bite is not as common. I can imagine that bites of that sort were vere not much fun.
We had a fellow here in Georgia about 15 or 20 years ago, who gathered up a jar full of Black Widow Spiders, and poured them over his wife while she slept. The multiple bites killed her. The fellow went to prison over that. I thought that was an interesting way for the fellow to do "in his" wife.
Best Regards John Z
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by agkistrodude on September 5, 2008
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Black Widows are common where I live too. Last week I finally got my chainsaw back from the repair shop and started cutting up an old oak tree I started on a couple months ago.Its been lying down and the bark was starting to peel away and I found 25 or 30 of them in a couple hours up under that bark.I thought about putting them in dixie cups and seeing if they would sell in Columbia this November, but I didn't.
And John, one of the first things we do at my hunting club every season is throw a bug bomb or 2 in the outhouse! Marty
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