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by TomT on February 4, 2003
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I read the reviews on this site and I went to the Midwest site and read BGF's review of the gloves... I'm thinking about buying a pair for general cage maintenance and snake removal work.... I'd like to hear more thoughts and comments on them, since it's been a few months now that the reviews were written... any and all comments would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks in advance
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by bitisatrox on February 4, 2003
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I have had a pair for a wile now (1 1/2 year) and I use them only when I have to hold the animal for medical or force feeding, for this they are fine but you cant really get a proper grip on the snake unless the snake is huge and this is my problem there a bit clumsy.
regardless these gloves are very puncture resistent so they do make up for it, if you get a pair look up Vet-Pro gloves thats who makes them just without the midwest logo and a bit cheaper.
Stay safe,
Ty
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by TomT on February 4, 2003
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thanks for the tip on Vet Pro.... that's nice to know, as the only negative thing I can find out about the gloves so far is one person commented on the "felt" liners falling apart, and that's apparently where the puncture resistant material is located.... it would be nice to be able to replace that part if necessary, and knowing who the manufacturer is makes a world of difference when looking for service after the sale. I Spoke with a Gila breeder about the Midwest/Vet Pro gloves yesterday and he informed me that Gila / Beaded Lizards can easily chew through the gloves, and that he recalled a friend had purchased a pair of Elk Skin gloves from somewhere.... he thought it might have been Furmont?? That were shoulder length and quite soft.... I've inquired of Furmont to see if they make such a pair of gloves and haven't heard back from them yet... The whole purpose I'd use the gloves for would be to perform cage maintenance and "problem" snake removal, should a hook not be sufficient to get the job done. I like the thought of having a pair of gloves tought enough to stop a crotalid strike, should they need to, and the protection of having my hands covered by a leather/ballistic kevlar insurance policy is appealing too.... Thanks for responding.... Best regards.
Tom
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by Buzztail1 on February 4, 2003
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Tom,
I declined the opportunity to try these gloves when it presented itself. I guess they just didn't meet with my "never give a snake a chance to get me" philosophy.
However, I have seen BGF and Chris Harper use them (I have pictures). I don't think Chris uses them regularly but I know Bryan put them through their paces before giving his opinion on them.
Bryan may not stop by here regularly enough to see and respond to your question. I would recommend that you email him and ask him directly. Or, if you don't have his email, email me and I will send it to you.
Karl H. Betz
Buzztail1@hotmail.com
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by TomT on February 4, 2003
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Hi Karl.... I did read BGF's review of the gloves at the Midwest site, and the I read the product reviews on this site. I also did a pretty extensive search over at Kingsnake.com and feel I have a fairly good handle on the professionally endorsed view of the product. I was looking for the exact kind of information that Ty provided.... the fact that the gloves are made *for* Midwest by someone else, etc.... Your thoughts are always well received and appreciated and I do know what you are saying about not giving the snake a chance to bite :-) me.... I had a rattlesnake launch itself (I would NOT have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes) at me on SuperBowl Sunday and it gave me a great scare.... SO, I've been thinking about a little added insurance when I go on snake calls, or for when I'm bagging, moving, cleaning or doing other activities.... I may decide NOT to buy the gloves at all, but I Want to make an informed decision in either case. One thing I'd like to be able to do is try on a pair before buying them, so that means I'll probably end up buying them from a vendor at a show, or trying on someone else's pair if I get the chance. I do not intend to be a human guinea pig for field testing the gloves, nor do I intend to test them on live snakes, venomoid or not, to prove they work. What I Do plan to use them for, if I buy them, is a shield, like any other barrier to put just that much more distance between me and another bite.
As always, thanks for the response. I hope to read more from others soon.....
TOm
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by sierra on February 5, 2003
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Tom,
I agree with Karl, my thoughts on the gloves are this...its ok to use them as you describe, as a backup only, but to those who put them on and feel they are completely safe...well, thats sorta like putting on a bullet proof kevlar vest and saying " I'm protected go ahead fire away " , I personally wouldnt want to leave that much open to "chance". However, that being said, I admit we've never used the gloves, just seem too bulky for most things, which can put you more at risk of a mishap....just my opinion though...I do believe they can hold up to the strike of the Crotalus and Agkistrodon in your area, unless maybe the strike lands on a seam...again, just my thoughts..overall I guess its just personal preference, and they may make a great added piece of insurance, if used wisely...
Sierra
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by sierra on February 5, 2003
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I just brought the subject up to my husband, and he said if indeed they are the Vet pro gloves, that he did use them...but for a totally different situation..lol..to handle extremely wild "street cats" that were being treated at the veterinary clinic he worked at in college. He said that a cats claws never penitrated the gloves, but the teeth quite often went straight through...not really a good comparison though...and they were bulky with very little "feel", his opinion was that he would use them only with certain species and in the way I previously described...again, the feline comparison isnt really a good one...just more info for ya...
Sierra
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by Naja_oxiana on February 5, 2003
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Actually Sierra,
I know of one fellow in Florida who put the midwest gloves to use catching some wild cats....they weren't quite as puncture resistant afterwards, iirc.
CHeers
Roger-who-is-*still*-in-the-country
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by Frawgg on February 6, 2003
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I also own a pair. Your dexterity isn't that great while using the gloves and I only use them for routine cage maintenance. Small snakes (corals,Aspidelaps,etc...) would have a bit of difficulty in penetrating the gloves, but vipers are a whole different story. By keeping it in perspective, they do have a useful purpose. Hope my feedback helps. Be safe!
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Anonymous post on February 6, 2003
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I only use them for angry rear-fanged snakes (boiga only, not a boomslang). The outside of the glove is smooth, making it hard to get a grip on the snake. There is no way that they would be my only line of defense with elapids or vipers.
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