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by Cro on September 27, 2008
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I would normaly post this in the news section, but the video is so cool, that I am putting the link here, so that it will not be missed.
http://itn.co.uk/news/adf53a580ee025371610e65ee664c364.html
Best Regards John Z
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by kacz on September 27, 2008
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It should be noted that legitimate science considers homeopathy the ultimate "snake oil" based on an 19th century alternative to bloodletting! Any claims that these preparations are effective against the wide array of maladies stated is a result of the placebo effect, not real medicine.
Kacz
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by LarryDFishel on September 28, 2008
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Yeah, I was with them right up until I heard the word "homeopathic". I'm not sure how anyone with a junior-high education can possibly buy the underlying premise of homeopathy.
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by pdk9Roper on September 28, 2008
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Thanks john for shearing that video, it was pretty cool, and some good shots of some beautiful specimens, interesting job they have.
I'm not to sure about the whole homeopathic thing though, what do you think?
I always look foreword to hearing your thoughts on different matters on these threads.
Keith
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by yoyoing on September 28, 2008
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Mentioned is that the snakes are not handled much because studies show handled snakes do not produce as potent a venom. Any idea what these studies are?
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by yoyoing on September 28, 2008
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Also, I have to suggest not hanging up on the word "homeopathic". Something may be lost in the translation, but this is South America, so folk medicines (from such a biochemically impressive region)shouldn't be so easily dismissed.
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by Cro on October 4, 2008
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I agree with James, we should not get hung up on the word Homeopathic, as now days, that term is in common usage for many naturalistic products, and does not nescicarily mean that the product is being used in the classic way where extreme dilutions are used in homeopathic preparations.
The word homeopathic is now days almost interchangeable with words like organic.
The main thing, is that this guy has a place out in the jungle, and he keeps Bushmasters and other tropical venomous snakes, and on occasion milks them. And he makes money doing it. And he makes videos of the snakes. That is the cool part.
As far as the lack of scientific support for homeopathic preperations, there are some folks who believe they work, and those who think it is worthless. Science has had a tough time trying to test these preperations, and the Placebo effect is well known. However, I do know of one scientific study that would seem to support homeopathy:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031022061728.htm
The idea that tiny fractions of a much diluted compound could have a curing effect on an organism seems strange at first. However, we must remember that a tiny drop of snake venom is able to kill a human, and that tiny drop of venom is diluted into tens of thousands of drops of human tissue. Also, we can take a small amount of a toxin and produce a vaccine, and that when injected can create immunity in a human. Again, we are dealing with tiny fractions that stimulate an immune response in humans. So, the idea that tiny amounts of something can have an effect, even in the tiny amount that is in homeopathic preperations, in some ways makes sense.
Best Regards John Z
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