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Any Agkistrodon bilineatus keepers out there?
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by TheFifthDay on December 21, 2008
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I am just interested in the care of them. Are the reqirements the same as other Agkistrodon, even though they are smaller?
And does anyone know if they are more or less venomous then an Agkistrodon piscivorus? (I know that you should always treat a gun like it is loaded, whether it is a pellet gun or a .50 Cal.) I'm just wondering.
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Jon short
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by theemojohnm on December 21, 2008
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Jon, I am always hesitant to say that I have any "favorite species", but Agkistrodon has always been my favorite species, and A. bilineatus taylori might be my favorite of the Agkistrodon complex so...
I keep pairs of A. b. taylori, A. b. russeolus, and A. b. bilineatus. I also used to have a pair of howardgloydi.
I have bred taylori twice, bilineatus three times, and russeolus once. I also am very fond of coppers and cottons, and can certainly say that the Agkistrodon are my all time favorites.
The care of A. bilineatus is comparable to coppers (though I usually keep them a bit more warm, and in conditions just a bit more humid) and cottons as far as general care and behavior. All Agkistrodon are usually very alert and "twitchy", and can be downright nervous snakes at times. In my experience, cottons are certainly the "boldest" generally out of all of the Aggies. I usually say that Cantils are kind of "in between" the coppers and cottons. All of my Cantils love their large water-bowls and I even have those ExoTera waterfalls in my larger cages, just like I do for my cottons. The moving water on the warm end of the cage provides a bit more humidity (the waterfalls in my cotton cages are on the cool side). Most of my coppers do not like to be misted directly, but my cotton love it, and will drink the water that falls onto their faces. My Cantils also drink like this.
From what I have read and heard from others, Cantil venom is more toxic drop for drop, compared to the other Agkistrodon species. A good bite from an adult Cantil would probably be comparable to an adult cotton bite, as the cottons larger sizes make up for a venom that is not as potent. Cantil venom is much more potent than copperhead venom, and a solid wet bite from one could be pretty serious. The basic treatment is usually the same for copperheads and cottons.
Let me know if there are any specifics you would like to know about how I keep mine. Very cool snakes. Again, I can't say that I have a favorite species, but A. bilineatus is definitely up there.
Take Care,
~John Mendrola.
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by Phobos on December 21, 2008
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A. biliniatus is VERY hot (maybe 2x)compared to any of our domestic Agkistrodon.
Al
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by TheFifthDay on December 21, 2008
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I would like to know a good cage size, good temps and humidity, and how often you should feed Agkistrodon species.
Jon Short
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by jared on December 21, 2008
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Really depends. I too keep and breed all the cantil ssp and certain ones have a lil diff care than others. The ornates and blacks i tend to keep like my pictigaster, arid dry and rocky, misting for breeding purposes etc. You can get away with a lil more humidity with howardgloydi and russeoulus. Also, cantils are very toxic compared to other aggies and bill haast himself once describe an ornate cantil bite as his most painful bite EVER (i will GLADLY second that). They are more destructive on tissues than even cotton bites and are EXTREMELY painful. I like keeping black and ornates in the 80s to low 90s fluxuating highs and lows, light cycles and times etc, just like aquaculture in large fish farms almost. They are very hardy, give um a low 90s hot spot, a decent size water dish and do not over hydrate as they are not as similar to cottons as one may think. Treat them more like copperheads and you should be fine,
Jared
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