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by Rob_Carmichael on July 1, 2009
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The saddest thing is that a little girl is dead. There are so many inept and completely irresponsible reptile owners out there who put their families in danger and they will be the ones that ruin it for all of the responsible folks. It's ridiculous. It's no wonder more laws are going into effect to restrict ownership and every time I see this crap, it makes me wonder if they have a legitimate beef - just too many darn bad apples to worry about. If we can't police ourselves, we're in big trouble.
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by pictigaster1 on July 1, 2009
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No loss greater than the loss of a child.The problem in many cases is the inocuos way some people think of there so called pet python.Trusting them around small children.I was once given custody of a 18 and a 17 foot burm that each were over 200 pounds and very fat.They were allowd to free roam a house with several small children even sleeping with them.The kids were taken and I was given the snakes.The woman who had owned them asked to visit her snakes so I let her the alturisium she saw in her snakes was quite scarry.I tried to explain these were very dangerous animals and all she could see was her sweet babies visitation was cut off and the snake sent to proper homes.Those types of keepers will kill this hobby no doubt.A large python is as deadly as any big cat.In fact deadlyer I once saw a retic eat a leopard in a film.
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by tigers9 on July 1, 2009
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This is actually good report with facts, the guy was illegal owner (aka, bad laws only punish food people while questionable people break them), plus kid endangerment, doesn’t matter if python killed the kid or if the kid drank bleach, dead is dead, young kid needs to be supervised
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A 12-foot albino Burmese python escaped its container this morning and strangled a young girl, authorities told in the Orlando Sentinel.
Lt. Bobby Caruthers of the Sumter County Sheriff's Office said the snake belonged to the boyfriend of the victim's mother. The girl was identified as Shaiunna Hare, of Oxford, Fla., about 50 miles northwest of Orlando.
Snake owner Charles Darnell, 32, stabbed the snake when he found it on top of the girl, authorities said. He may face child endangerment charges, and wildlife officials said he likely faces a misdemeanor charge because he did not have the required permit to keep a python.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/python-strangles-girl-2-in-florida-home.html
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by Adamanteus70 on July 1, 2009
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The Reptiles of Concern law pertaining to the legal ownership of certain pythons and all venomous reptiles in the State of Florida have caging regulations that have to be met before the permit is issued. A $1000.00 bond is required at time of application, along with 1000 hours documented husbandry with a current ROC permit holder and the animals have to be pit tagged. The facility and caging the animals are to kept in is inspected first before the permit is issued.
My money says the snake was being kept illegally without permits. In that case, it is considered a felony, with fines or charges against the illegal keeper.
It just too bad that a innocent child was killed by negligence of the parents, not the snake.
Paul
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by BobH on July 1, 2009
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Terrible, terrible incident. At least one Orlando paper is reporting the snake at 8.5 ft which raises more questions about it being a feeding response.
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by tigers9 on July 1, 2009
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http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jul/01/012310/child-strangled-python-sumter-county/news-breaking/
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by Adamanteus70 on July 2, 2009
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What is really estranged is the comments people posted below the article. Most want to kill all snakes, or ban them from ownership in the USA. Some say the only people who keep snakes are freaks, others make sick jokes about if the snake has to register as a child offender. The gene pool in the area this newspaper is covering is very poor. I would suggest the sterilization of the human population for the entire Sumter County. I know the area, and scholars are far and few between. While road cruising the sand ridges in that area I have noticed quite a few "big headed" people walking around back in the sticks. Very similar to the legendary Aintree GA.
This whole thing is a tragedy, and ignorance will only make it worse.
Paul
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by Cro on July 2, 2009
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So Paul, do you mean that if we drive through Sumter County, Florida, that we are likely to hear banjo music ?
Cue: Deliverence Theme Music.............
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by LarryDFishel on July 2, 2009
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Paul, I'm afraid most of what you said about the ROC law in Florida is incorrect.
The bond (and it's $10,000) is only required for exhibition. There is, whoever, a $100 per year permit fee.
There is no experience requirement for ROC's. Only a questionare.
Caging for ROC's is not inspected beforehand, but you have to agree to allow inspections, which they don't have anywhere near the manpower to do for thousands of python owners. They'll probably only inspect if they have a complaint.
Keeping an ROC without a permit, by itself, is a midemeanor in Florida. I don't know about child endangerment.
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by Adamanteus70 on July 2, 2009
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Larry, I was reading the original requirements, and thought that was the final draft. I thought that in order to recieve a permit you had to be inspected.
Sorry for the mistake, so I wonder how it is regulated and enforced?
John, not all areas are like that, but you should be careful when out and about in the thick of the woods. There is a place like that in NE Marion county also, called Hog Valley and the law does not even go there unless necessary. I used a live rattlesnake to secure my safety back in the 1990's when approached by four men on a back road miles from no where. Don't worry the snake was unharmed, I just used the sound of it rattling in the back to send them on their way.
Paul
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