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by danny37 on September 2, 2011
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Well since only one person found it worth his time to respond to my thread(thank you).and no one else botherd,I will just ask one question that maybe someone that knows will do me the incredible honor of answering.here goes.I am going to introduce my male gaboon to my female rhino,if I get a successful coupling is that enough to insure a clutch?or should I try multipul times?????I know u have all been beat to death with breeding questions,but I have looked back on this site and others and cannot find the answer to this,or any of the other questions on my previous thread.any help will be appreciated....Danny
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by JRose1989 on September 2, 2011
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It is like anything else in nature, when it comes to reproduction, meaning it is not a guarantee. It is the same as any breeding activity (including human) meaning just because there is sexual contact does not 100% give you offspring. So I would say the chances are 50/50 under normal circumstances. However, since you are crossbreeding I would say that if you get a successful coupling then your chances are about 25% yes and 75 % no. The more times you get a successful coupling the better your odds. Even know I personally don’t agree with playing with the animal gene pool to obtain a personal pet and or gain, I will wish you best of luck.
John
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by CHRIS on September 3, 2011
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Danny I will keep all of my snakes seperated at all times,than for about two days out of the year,at the most i will put the female in with the male one on one. In most cases there will be copulation in less than an hour,most pairs will remain locked up for about six to thirteen hours. I than seperate them right away,with one copulation it is better than 90% chance of produceing offsprings. I will not let them lock up again.This is based on Bothrops of the same species,not cross breeding.I have not produced any Bitis since the seventys and it was still the same procedure,except they would not lock up as long.Keep the snakes at a year round temp of about 78 ,you do not have to hibrenate these snakes or set them up with misting cycles, only mist them around shedding time. The key to good breeding is diet. Any bitis under 4 feet in length and larger than 2 feet,When it attains its normal body mass you should only feed it one large mouse a week. This will be more than enough for a captive animal to maintain its weight, it is no longer in the wild haveing to hunt for its food,and it should be parisite free.After all i have said i hope this helps you but I must say this i discourage the practice of cross breeding even though we know it happens in the wild it serves no purpose in captivity other than to fulfil the keepers desire. In most cases if babies are produced they will be neglected as compared to pure animals. If it is for profit most serious collectors wont buy them,and those that will are usually inexperienced people,and you do not want to go down that road.Keep in mind that babies from the bitis group under proper care can live for many years. Think it through. Have a great day Chris
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by danny37 on September 3, 2011
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Ok,now we're talkin.thank you both very much for the info.I just think that the gaboon rhino hybrid makes a beautiful snake.I have a few friends who keep hots.not very many in Michigan sad to say,but if I do get lucky and am successful at breeding these snakes I have homes for a few of them.and the rest I have plenty of space for in my snake room.not looking to make money on them at all.my snakes are all very healthy,my wife likes to say I spend more time and money on them than I do on her:). Thanks again for the info,I will put it to good use.....Danny
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by Rob_Carmichael on September 3, 2011
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Danny, your first post was somewhat condenscending. Many of us professionals in the field are very busy, with many commitments. It's easy to find our contact info so you are always welcome to contact us directly to ensure a timely response. When you post a question you have to be patient for a response. We all come here because we ENJOY coming here, not because we have to nor are we obligated in any way to answer someone's question. I've posted questions where I didn't get a response and it was no big deal at all - I just contacted those I thought could help directly. My question to you is "what is the motive for hybridizing a gaboon with a rhino viper"? I'm not a big fan of this type of thing...actually, I'm really against it.
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
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by danny37 on September 3, 2011
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Look, there are confirmed cases of these two snakes mateing in th wild,so it's not like I am creating a monster here.why not ask all the constrictor guys why they breed morphs?or albinos?I already stated my reason.I like the look of the snake they produce.no one can tell me that the beauty of any snake is not a factor in their decision to keep a certain breed.I am a bitis guy.I have been keeping them for years.always wanted a gabino,no one wants to let one go,so I am going to give the breeding thing a crack myself.I know bitis have large clutches,and I have the space and money to care for them.I really don't see the big debate in this.I am a responsible keeper,always have been.my little breeding experiment is not going to threaten the gene pool.this happens in nature guys,come on.....Danny
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by danny37 on September 3, 2011
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Really nothing to argue about,seems to always turn out this way for some reason.just wanted a few strait forward questions answerd as I stated in my first thread,from the people that know.everyone has an opinion,and that is not what I want.just the facts,not trying to be rude(really I am not).just don't really care about weather someone agrees with the cross breeding or not,plain and simple.I just want breeding advice from those who have done it.dose it take a fancy title to get some love?or can a little'ol private keeper get some love to?....Danny
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by varivenom on September 4, 2011
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Only thing to say is you sure went about this the wrong way. When your speaking to or requesting knowledge from the men and or women on here that might know a bit more than yourself it is best to do so with the utmost respect and maybe a touch of humility. Just a bit of friendly advice. Take it or leave it.
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by CHRIS on September 4, 2011
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Danny Its not that people are attacking you about the ideal,even though there is some people that enjoy starting an argument, and there always be a trouble maker. But this is some good advice true certain snakes will cross in the wild,but it is only a matter of time before the availability of new wild caught snakes can be imported,so it would be wise to care for the current captives in a proper manner,I know what you are saying about all of the other morphs out there,but in reality people that do this are destroying a natural resource. One day maybe due to availabilty, conservation or polotics we may not be able to get them anymore,and yes that can happen.Years ago many snakes were being imported example at that time Bothrops Bicolor,now its only a pipe dream.People thought that it was an endless resource,it is not.A wild caught snake is worth its weight in gold.If it comes down to it very few snakes will be available to the private sector,but proffesional instituions will still have a access,this would be a shame due to the fact that the private sector is still more qualified to care for them.This is part of the reason you get so much debate over the cross breeding,it would be a great thing if everyone would just stop it,and appreciate each animal for what it is,man can not improve on Gods work. Hope this helps you. Chris
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by danny37 on September 4, 2011
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thank you all for replying to my post. i will take all advice into consideration...Danny
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