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The Stupid Ideology of PETA and the HSUS
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by BlackMamba88 on November 12, 2015
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It's been a while since anyone has posted anything good on here that got the juices flowing and since I am bored tonight and do not have work tomorrow I will give it go.
One question that has always stood out in the back of my mind is why some people claim that certain animals cannot be domesticated. Venomous snakes (which I love keeping) are definitely among some of the animals that people claim are "wild animals" that cannot be domesticated. To me the idea that there are animals out there that cannot be domesticated is not only ignorant and delusional it is just downright stupid. I have seen a domesticated version of almost every animal that has ever been kept as a pet including so called "wild animals." I have seen everything from domesticated tigers to domesticated alligators, to domesticated vipers. The fact that any and all species can over time, via artificial selection, be domesticated is science and an indisputable fact. So what the hell are these people who claim otherwise trying to do ? What is there agenda ? Are they just trying to troll us ? Are they just your typical eccentric brain damaged liberal that wants to set all the animals free ? I knew that they didn't care about whether or not the people who kept them got hurt. So it wasn't about "protecting people" as they usually claim as an excuse to take our animals. So WTF what is it ! I needed to know.
I went down to see one of my old professors who was highly intelligent and big into the animal rights movement. We had bumped heads before but my new game plan was to pretend that I has "seen the light" and was now an animal activist and bleed all the information I could out of her so I can use it against her later. Besides, I had an hour to kill before my next class and there was nothing to do any way. What I found out about the way these people think was so moronically stupid and absurd that I didn't know whether to be disgusted at how dumb these people are or just feel bad for them.
I am not going to go through the entire dialogue as it will take too much time. I will just touch base on the substantive points made. I pretty much went in there as a newly converted animals rights activist who was trying to get in touch with his inner PETA but was having trouble sorting through some of the issues in my own mind. When the Professor seen I was trying to become more self actualized she started drooling at the chance to radicalize me and the walls the once stood guard to her moronic line of thinking came down. It took some back and forth and a little coaxing but I finally got answers to the big questions that had been bothering me such as why we shouldn't keep any animals as pets or why we shouldn't domesticate animals in general.
Pretty much the issue came down to autonomy. These people love animals so much they view captivity as a form of enslavement. They project their own emotions about how they would feel if they were kept in a cage onto the animals. They are unable to understand that there is a difference between an animal mind and a human mind and that we crave different things and are content in different situations. They do not understand nor can they phantom that a snake might see a rock and see it as a nice place to squeeze under for six months as where a human would view that same rock as dirty and not want to touch it.
Furthermore, they view domestication as a radical form of cruelty and enslavement whereby we are genetically altering the animal to be subservient to humans and enslaved. They not only want to stop the domestication of so called "wild animals" at all costs but they want to un-domesticate domesticated animals. For them animals rights is something radically different then what the lay person thinks of. We think of animals rights as the right to not be abused, to have a clean cage, to be well fed et. They think of animals rights as the right of the animal to not be owned by us, to not trust us, to view us as the enemy, to attack us, to have autonomy from us, and not be controlled by our will et. This is why they constantly try to drill it into people's heads that some animals are wild animals that cannot be tamed while simultaneously trying to ban more and more animals. It has nothing to do with whether or not it is actually possible or the science of domestication. They are just trying to preserve that species as a free autonomous wild species who hasn't fell victim to human enslavement. Other more legitimate issues such as the pet trade impacting wild populations were also discussed but that was more of a logistical problem that could be easily solved with quotas or captive breeding programs and wasn't really an issue that I thought was a big deal.
The big issues that I had come to understand was the issue of pet owner ship and domestication. To me I could always understand why they were against fur coats and the mass slaughter of animals for human consumption. I don't necessarily agree with them on those points but at the very least I could see where they are coming from and to some extent even empathize with them. However, on the issue of captivity and domestication I still vehemently disagree with them and don't understand where they are coming from. I understand their philosophy, as radical and simple minded as it is. I just don't understand their point. They are completely looking over all the benefits of captivity and domestication and are projecting complex human wants and needs onto simple animals.
First of all there are no studies or evidence that captivity stresses the animal out or that the animal does not want to be in captivity. Every animal I have ever owned seems perfectly content in captivity. There isn't even evidence that the animal is even aware that it is in captivity. Some animals such as my cat are intelligent enough to be let outside unguided and will willingly come back. Took look at a feral cat loaded with parasites, beat up, hungry, and cold and claim that all cats should be that way because then they will be free from human enslavement and autonomous is a very sick form of evil that is cruel to the animal and needs to be stopped immediately.
Second of all animals aren't as intelligent as us and if they are going to be in captivity they should be as domesticated as possibly so that they do not hurt themselves or us, and so that captivity is as comfortable as possible for both us and the animal. Attempting to hold an undomesticated wild type animal in captivity is dangerous, stupid, and cruel. Therefore, the animal should be domesticated as quickly as possible and begin getting used to human interaction. It's "wildness" or free autonomous independent former self should not be preserved in any way and should be done away with as soon as possible. This is why people who are against venomoids are particularly bad for the venomous community. They are trying to keep animals that are in captivity and therefore should be domesticated partially wild. It is a moronic line of thinking. Aside from surgical methods of domestication, taking certain animals that are naturally passive and breeding them via artificial selection to exaggerate those features so that the next generation is more suitable for captivity and even more passive is not cruel in any way. Natural selection tends to make the animals as violent, cruel, and self destructive as possible. Animals that have fancy colors like albinos or that are good hearted and passive tend to die horribly in nature. Why not breed them in captivity ? We are merely conferring a better way on them and introducing them to a better quality of living. Whatever attributes the animal losses it will gain back in a better quality of living. And since the animal is getting a better quality of living I am sure that it wouldn't mind giving up some of those things if it was intelligent enough to understand. But it is not, and neither are these idiots who want to stop domesticating and undomesticated animals.
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