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by Wollers on November 25, 2003
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William, the S. Copperhead is absent in the extreme south/ southeast counties of Georgia. I recommend you obtain a current field guide like A.Tennant's Snakes of North America/ Eastern and Central Regions which is back in print now. This book gives the most accurate, up-to-date ranges of the different snake species found in your region. -Mike
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by CottonmouthKyle on November 25, 2003
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In my area a friend of mine that works with Obediah's(a swamp zoo like place) found a southern copperhead under a log. So I beleive there is a chance to find one. What type of environment is best to find one? Ive searched almost the entire area where it was found.
THANKS,
Kyle
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by creep77 on November 25, 2003
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I must disagree. Last spring, I was herping on little saint simon's island, and the day before we went out to the island, we found a rather large southern copperhead, less than 10 miles from the main access bridge onto saint simon's. This was a road-killed animal of course. This is extreme southeastern GA.
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by Snakeman1982 on November 26, 2003
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Interesting finds. Maybe you guys should report these findings to someone in Georgia. You might get to publish a county record or something.
Wollers is right though. I have my revised "Snakes of North America: Eastern and Central Regions" and it along with the Peterson's say they don't occur in southeast Georgia.
Hey Wollers, is your version misprinted. I got mine back in July and I have about 16 blank pages in the rattlesnake section (of course). Anyway, it is an excellent book and I recommend it to anyone on this site, since we are all interested in snakes.
Another good one that I just bought is "Snakes of North America" by Carl Ernst. It is an excellent book but the price tag is about $70. I think it is worth it for a reference book but isn't the most useful as a field guide. It is a little big, pricey, and doesn't go enough into subspecies for field guide material but is definitely the most complete book on North American snakes and has some great photos. So if you want a detailed description of any and every species of snake in North America, then get that book, too.
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by cottonmouth on November 26, 2003
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I have found several in an old abandoned 4-H camp in folkson,Ga and that is about is far South as you can get. It is a bit away from the coast though.
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by Wollers on November 26, 2003
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Folkston off of US 301 ??? Now that's south. I wonder if anyone has heard of any sightings of Coppers across the St.Mary's River in Nassau County,Florida. Now, that would be something! As a general rule though, when I set out to search for a target species, I travel well within the "meat" of their range before getting out and taking a look. i.e. I would not have a whole lot of confidence in finding any EDB's if I were in west Mississippi or North Carolina. I realize thats not a great example because the S.Copperhead is more adaptable to changes to its environment than the E.Diamondback and its range is probably not shrinking as fast, if at all as the Diamondback. Anyways, you get my point. Snakeman 1982, I checked that book and all the text and photos are complete. I would return your copy for another if I were you. Gotta have all those Rattlesnakes! -Mike
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by Buzztail1 on November 28, 2003
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I have had several people tell me that they have found copperheads in Camden County but have yet to actually find one (14 years off and on of looking). Every single "copperhead" call that I have gone out on turned out to be either a cottonmouth or a corn snake.
All of my snake books show the range of the copperhead ending well above Folkston (which is still north of where I live in Georgia) but as The Boss so often tells me..."Snakes don't read the field guides."
Any copperheads found in SE Georgia should be reported to the DNR to authenticate range extensions. Since they are legal to have and collect throughout the state without permit, there is absolutely no reason not to make your findings part of the state record.
Karl H. Betz
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St Marys, GA
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by grappler on November 28, 2003
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I know the spot your speaking of in Folkston, but I think it is an old KOA campground right off 1 and 23. We caught a stubtail copperhead there 2 yrs ago and I think Mardi has caught 1 or 2 there. Grappler
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