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How can they do that??
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by Phobos on April 24, 2004
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I was in Hamburg today at the Northern Berks show and overheard a conversation that disturbed me.
One vendor was talking to a prospect (in his 30's)that was looking over the Hot snakes on the table to purchase. The buyer ended up chosing between a EG Mamba and a Waglers PV. The buyer had no clue what he was buying and was asking the differences between the bites from the two snakes. The vendor explained and the guy bought the Wagler and had him set it aside and left.
I followed the guy and had a few words with him about what just happened but I could not pursuade him to A. don't buy anything till he was did some homework. or B. buy a Copperhead or a Pig (Sistrurus)as a first hot. If he got tagged the fallout with not be huge. (Yeah, Waglers are not suppose to have bad bites either but I was loooking at the fact that they are at least domestic.)
I don't know how often this happens but once is too many times in my estimation. It would give the state legislature something to act on and change the laws.
I also heard that New York was in the process of doing just that because of the idiot that kept the tiger in his apartment. The Herp laws would be changed too I was told.
Just take one idiot or vendor to mess it up for us all.
Al
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by Snake17 on April 24, 2004
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I totaly agree with you. How dumb can an idiot be ? Man, what was that cretin thinking when buying a hot herp. I saw something that disturbed me on a visit to Athens(Greece) a couple days ago. In a large pet shop, among iguanas, gekos, boas, corns and pythons there was a COBRA for sale, an Anulated Water Cobra. No age or permits needed to buy it. Any idiot could have bought that deadly snake. My country`s people are such idiots that in the case of a single exotic dangerouse animalo acident they would ban this tipe of animal keeping all together. For the time being you don`t need a special permit in Romania to keep herps and I don`t think there are more than 15-20 people in the entire country to keep exotic hot herps.
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by LarryDFishel on April 25, 2004
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On the bright side.....at least the vendor didn't sell him the mamba even though he probably would have gotten 3 times as much for it...
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by roadkruzer on April 26, 2004
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I had a similar experience at a hot show not to long ago. I began asking a vendor questions about a gaboon viper, knowing it was illegal in my state without a permit, I asked if it was legal to sell it to a person in my state with no permit and was assured it was. I then began asking very simple questions like what does it eat? what do I keep it in? and so on. The vendor didn't in any way seem concerned that I could be a person that does not know anything about snakes and continued to urge me to take it home. I understand that breeders need to sell the snakes in order to make money but, If vendors and the rest of us that deal with hots do not take the initiative to know who who we are selling to, then eventually new legislation will!
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by MattHarris on April 29, 2004
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The Tonko Bill, which would prohibit the possession of Dangerous animals, was introduced back in 2001 and has appeared each year since, in various forms.
A new bill has been introduced preventing pet stores from selling dangerous or exotic animals. This occurred in early March. Whether this was a result of the tiger in the apartment or the guy on Long Island who was bitten by the rattlesnake in March, I don't know...but either way, it's coming about because of a few careless people.
NYC has had dangerous animals banned for years, but obviously, NYC residents are still ignoring the laws. There are people out there who will ignore them regardless. Unfortunately, those of us who do have some regard for the laws and more-so for the animals are the only ones who seem to abide by the laws.
I have lived in NY for 10 years and have kept many species of venomous without problems. I am contemplating moving back to PA and commuting an hour simply to get away from the laws, liberals and taxes!
I too was at Hamburg, but instead of "Sugar coating" the bite effects, I told everyone exactly what happens from a Bothrops bite-----bad things!!! Maybe that's why I didn't sell any???? LOL!!!!!!!!
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by Phobos on May 4, 2004
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Sorry you did not sell any Matt. They were just awesome animals. Yes, very bad things happen when you "get a sip" of their venom....
If you still have them in june after I move and get settled in my new place. I may contact you.
Best,
Al
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