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Sea Snakes, in captivaty?
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by ALA_herp31 on November 30, 2004
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Hey ya'll, can anyone tell me if any species of Sea Snake has been kept sucesfuly in cativaty? I have tried to find some info on this subject by searching the net, but have found nothing....Thanks....Happy herping Wally
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Anonymous post on November 30, 2004
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Laticauda colubrina has been kept by Professional Aquarium Exhibits. This species thrives better in captive settings than other marine ophidia. I have no records of longevity. These snakes are hard to obtain. In the past 20 years, I've only seen them (L. colubrina) listed commercially about 4 different times. They are illegal in FL.
I remember getting one in a "LIVE" rock shipment for my reef when I was about 16. The snake was barely alive on arrival and died hours later. Like all marine life they appear to be very delicate and fragile. Huu?
-The Phantom
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by ALA_herp31 on November 30, 2004
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Thanks Phantom, apreciate the info. Ive always wonderd if Sea Snakes would do well in captive situations......Thanks again.....Happy herping Wally
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by Buzztail1 on November 30, 2004
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Bryan Grieg Fry has placed several different ssps in aquaria over the years but I do not know how long they survived.
Scott Eipper wrote an article "Husbandry of two species of Australian Hydrophiids (Sea Snakes)" for the Fall 2002 SHHS newsletter. At that time, the Melbourne Aquarium had Lapemis hardwickii (Hardwick's Sea Snake) and Pelamis platurus (the Yellow-bellied or Pelagic Sea Snake) on display.
You should be able to reach Dr. Fry at venomdoc.com
Hope this helps,
Karl
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by ALA_herp31 on November 30, 2004
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Thanks Karl, I'll try Bryan Fry's web site and see what i can find out. Thanks again.......Happy herping Wally
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by LarryDFishel on November 30, 2004
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Phantom, could you elaborate on what you mean by them being "illegal" in Florida? Are they listed as a nuisence species or something, or do you just mean because they are venomous, which would just mean that you need a venomous reptile permit in Florida?
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by AquaHerp on November 30, 2004
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As the Phantom has pointed out, the sea kraits are kept by a few places. On occasion you'll get one that will do okay, albiet they spend a great deal of the time hidden among the rock. Nutrition is always a problem for these snakes, as it is with any marine reptile. As a general rule, sea snakes do not fare well in a captive situation. It comes down to one of those brick walls. In order to provide the animal with everything it might need in order to thrive would make it next to impossible to display as nobody would ever see it.
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Anonymous post on November 30, 2004
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68A-25.006 Possession, Exhibition and Caging Venomous Reptiles: Prohibited Species.
(1) Any person who keeps, possesses or exhibits poisonous or venomous reptiles shall comply with ss. 372.86, 372.87, 372.88, 372.89, 372.90 and 372.91, F.S.
(2) Venomous reptiles shall be kept enclosed in cages, cases, pits or enclosures of the following specifications:
(a) Cage may be constructed of a variety of materials including: plate glass of at least one-quarter inch thickness, break-resistant plastic of similar strength, concrete reinforced with wire, sheet metal, molded fiberglass, plywood or interlocking lumber that has been treated to be impervious to moisture and is not less than one-half inch in thickness, or other materials which provide equivalent stability and security against escape and unauthorized intrusion. Cages and doors to cages shall be sealed. The doors of each cage shall be securely locked to prevent unauthorized intrusion.
(b) A room may contain poisonous reptiles in cages that are not locked provided that such a room is locked to prevent unauthorized intrusion, is inaccessible to unauthorized personnel, is constructed and maintained as to be escape-proof, and, for commercial facilities, has been inspected and approved as conforming to these rules by Commission personnel prior to use.
(c) Outdoor open-topped enclosures:
1. For venomous reptiles native to the United States, the floors of outdoor cages shall be of concrete or masonry construction at least two inches in thickness. Sides shall be of similar construction, at least eight inches in thickness, or strength equivalent, with a minimum height of four feet above the floor of the enclosure. Outdoor enclosures need not have concrete or masonry flooring if the enclosure meets the following additional specifications:
a. The enclosure shall have concrete or masonry walls, at least eight inches in thickness, or strength equivalent.
b. The enclosure shall have footers made of concrete, or strength equivalent, extending not less than three feet below the grade level, outside the perimeter.
c. The corners of enclosure shall be designed or guarded to prevent the escape of reptiles by climbing.
d. All landscaping of the enclosure shall be arranged to insure that vegetation or other structures do not allow for the escape of reptiles.
2. Entrance doors shall be kept securely locked on all outdoor enclosures to prevent escape and unauthorized intrusion and the enclosure shall be equipped with barriers to prevent visitors from falling into enclosures that are constructed below ground level.
3. For venomous reptile species not native to the United States, all outdoor enclosures shall be topped with close-meshed wire or an equivalent barrier to provide additional security.
(3) All species of snakes commonly known as sea snakes or sea kraits, belonging to the families Elapidae, Hydrophiidae or Laticaududae are prohibited from being imported or possessed, except under the provisions of 370.081(4), F.S.
Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. Law Implemented 370.081, 372.86, 372.87, 372.88, 372.89, 372.90, 372.91, 372.92 FS. HistoryBNew 8-1-79, Amended 6-21-82, Formerly 39-25.06, Amended 5-10-87, 4-1-96, 9-15-96, Formerly 39-25.006, Amended 11-17-99.
I've never kept them, so I am just inviting conversation. A large land mass could be constructed using live rock. For those that don't know what live rock is, it's really just that. Pieces of rock with all sorts of invertebrates, and algae and plant growth. Sometimes, you can get little prizes in them too. I've seen all sorts of shrimp, stars, octopi, urchins, anemonoes come out of them. An added bonus. The live rock also benefits filtration keeping nitrate levels down, since the plant matter consumes disolved organics. I speculate water quality to be a husbandry issue w/ these herps....ya know, clean water just makes sense. If the keeper desires the snake cohabitate w/ marine fish water changes are definitely imperative. I wonder if commercial trace element additives used for marine fish would benefit the snake any? It would be cool to have them.
Any marine aquaculturists here? Do you have a take on this?
-The Phantom
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(3) All species of snakes commonly known as sea snakes or sea kraits, belonging to the families Elapidae, Hydrophiidae or Laticaududae are prohibited from being imported or possessed, except under the provisions of 370.081(4), F.S.
Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. Law Implemented 370.081, 372.86, 372.87, 372.88, 372.89, 372.90, 372.91, 372.92 FS. HistoryBNew 8-1-79, Amended 6-21-82, Formerly 39-25.06, Amended 5-10-87, 4-1-96, 9-15-96, Formerly 39-25.006, Amended 11-17-99.
Here is the online link to the provisions of 370.081 discussed above.
http://floridaaquaticinvasivespecies.com/statutes/370081nonind.asp
-The Phantom
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