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RE: baby canebrake
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by Parcelmouth on March 16, 2006
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Congratulations. I am happy to hear the littte guy/girl ate. It is hard (for me maybe another can answer better) why it seems the snake is not delivering a more effective dose of venom. I have seen the same rattler drop a rat in seconds after striking, and the next feeding the rat will hobble around the enclosure for 20-30 minutes before I will pull it out of the enclosur(with tongs) kill it myself and replace it for the snake to feed. I have read and seen videos on the net of rattlesnake strikes. It is more complex a process than I ever thoght. There are alot of dynamics and variables that can change,instantly. The snakes can actually compensate for prey items moving or changing position. The snake can move it's head if it misses with one fang to embedd the other. It has actually be seen that if one fang hits and the other misses, venom will only be injected from the fang that penetrated. All this happening in a fraction of a second.
Check out these links, and try searches with rattlesnake strike and Kardong as search parameters.
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/204/24/24/e
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/201/6/837
All that technical stuff being said, Also take into count the time of year at present. It is spring and all my beasties are in full swing psychotic feeding mode. Even captive born snakes have millions of years of intinct, and when the seasons change they know. Even if you keep your snake room 80 degrees F year round, some will go off food during the winter months. Like wise when spring comes they become more active and start doing what snakes do at that time of year.
Again I am glad to hear your canbrake is feeding. I hope you find the papers the links correspond to interesting.
J.S. Harrison
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by dsschless on March 17, 2006
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Thanks J.S. for those links, I found them very interesting, I printed them out and am starting a file of all interesting information I find on rattlesnakes. I saw that you keep EDB's I just purchased one 2 days ago (my second one) I noticed once I got it home it has a small lump on its back (under the scales) do you think this is anything serious? Im not sure if it is something that happend once I got him home, I have him in a cage with my other eastern, when I first introduced them, the she(the one that was already in the cage) was pretty defensive, inflating her body and hissing loudly at him (the new guy) is it possible she bit him, (I would like to think that I would have noticed the little lump on his back prior to having him for 2 days) he in every other way is acting normal and healthy, as he ate the first night I had him! (if it will help I can send you a picture of the snake, although the lump is so small it may not be visible in a picture)! Oh and he is captive breed, actually he is the brother of my other EDB. They are about 6mo now. I hope this information helps I can't think of anything else that my be pertinent to help! Thanks again!
Stefan Schlesselman
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by craig3758 on March 20, 2006
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I know what you mean about getting 100% of your snakes to eat.It seems every week I have a fussy one or two.My 2 coppers sometimes won't eat for months and then BAM,they eat 2 mice a week.Sometimes my snakes just like a variety.They won't eat mice so I'll feed them quail and they love'em.The mouse you originally fed him was probably too big so the hopper seemed to be the key.Glad he ate for ya.
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