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by tj on February 1, 2007
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"Of the Bothrops genus, I would like a juvenile or subadult Bothrops atrox or asper..."
Alex, if space is a problem, I wouldn't get either. They will both grow quickly, and you MAY need some space to work with them. They are VERY agile for large vipers, and can move very fast if they so choose.
What about atheris?
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by Rob_Carmichael on February 1, 2007
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I would definitely not recommend a B. atrox or just about any Bothrops. These are fast, typically aggressive, and very unpredictable. Of all of the venomous herps I work with, I least like working wit these simply because I know it's always going to be "game on" when I crack their cage open.
A big cottonmouth, even an aggressive one, can be fairly easily managed. But, a PO'd cottonmouth will release some of the foulest smelling musk you will ever encounter. It will embalm an entire room and the odor will linger for days (it's really quite impressive!). I personally love 'em but they are definitely not for everyone.
Echis are neat but obviously, you can't make a single mistake and you must have ready availability to proper antivenin. Our E. carinatus is actually quite placid but it may just be an individual trait.
If you can still get the Cerastes cerastes, they are just beautiful and neat snakes. Set up in a natural, sand/desert environment, they can be a show stopper display.
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
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by Snake18 on February 1, 2007
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Guys,
Thank you all for the advice.
I`ve chose and spoken to my guy; I`m probably going to be the prowd owner of a pair of subadult ECHIS CARINATUS :) It may take a month or two till I get it but anyway, I think I made a good choise.
Thanks again for the advice. I realy apreciate your imput.
Best regards,
Alex
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by GREGLONGHURST on February 1, 2007
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Alex: To reinforce what Rob said, be aware that Echis carinatus has a venom that is among the most virulent in the world. Having a ready supply of antivenin is a must.
He was also spot on concerning Bothrops and cottonmouths.
~~Greg~~
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by jared on February 1, 2007
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Good choice, Alex. I have a certain place in my heart for all echis. They are beautiful animals just watch your fingers, the little buggers can levitate! Take care,
Jared
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by Snake18 on February 2, 2007
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Hi Greg,
Thank you for your advice.
I am aware of the saw scale`s potency. But I`m sure I can handle it with the proper tools and techniques. I`ve had lots of experience with small and agressive snakes. The cottonmouth would have probably been something that I`d had get my hands on (e.g. tailing and hooking). I don`t enjoy this ideea at the moment.
Anyway, to have a suply of antivenom is impossible here. In case of a bite from one of my exotis I`d have to fly to Hungary immediatly (that`s the closest place where they have exotic antivenom). I`d also have to sell my apartment to afford the treatment :) Anyway, I`ve been careful till now and I hope I won`t have to sell my apartment any time soon :)
Best regards,
Alex
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by tj on February 2, 2007
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A small snake like that shouldn't be a problem handling. There are plenty of ways to move that snake in and out of it's enclosure if a hook won't work. I'm sure you'll be fine with it. Make sure you get one that is well started from a reputable dealer. That is a snake YOU DON'T want to have to force feed. And make sure you know what kind it is as echis AVs are not cross reactive.
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by ginny on February 3, 2007
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Sorry to hear you were let down and didnt get your C. cerastes. I'm waiting for a female myself to add to my collection and as it will be my last snake making a total of 6 i cant wait! Unfortunately in the UK availability is somewhat limited so I must be patient. Bothrops are one of my fav genus but I consider myself way too inexperianced too own one just yet! Maybe in another 10 years!Bothrops insularis is by far my fav pit-viper. As for your saw-scales you have experiance with Puffs and Western Diamond-Backs so I'm sure you'll get on just fine, let us know how you get on.
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