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by Buzztail1 on March 4, 2007
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I check our ads everyday.
I am amazed at some of the things that I see and am completely unabale to understand how some of these people are doing business.
If anyone can explain this to me, I would appreciate it.
To place an ad on our site, you have to creat a profile. There are places for all sorts of information on our profile sheets - like name, age, where you're from, email address, etc.
How can you fill out a profile (mostly not fill out), leave out your name, email address, etc. and expect people to send you money and buy things from you?
How can you send money to this person?
The same goes for not filling out your email address in your profile and then putting it down as how to contact you in your ad?
Does that make sense somewhere?
I guess I am in the minority here. I would never send money for anything to one of these people who is so on the up-and-up that they don't want you to know who they are. I honestly cannot conceive of doing business this way.
Karl
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by SnakeEyes2006 on March 4, 2007
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That it is why it is not a good idea to buy over the net unless you know the seller personally, you can however loook up pet stores on line and see what they have to offer and if they are in driving distance, go there yourself and buy face to face...I have a pet store I frequent and he will sell and ship (legally) to all of the USA, but he only sells non-venomous, (Burms,Retics, Carpets, Pines, Kings, Corns, Milks, gators, and some Turtles, Lizards) for the most part find the person selling and meet them face to face...It is the best way, or only buy from known persons like Bob Clark.... I hope this helps... Shawn
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by Chris_Harper on March 4, 2007
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I agree Karl. A fool and his money are soon parted. We have definitely had our share of con-men working our classifieds in the past, and it is always a pain in th butt. Unfortunately for them, I HATE THIEVES. I have taken the time to write an article on safe buying online. It's based on my experiences helping people recover their money or ordered items.
It can be downloaded here:
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/showfilepage/4586
Pass it on to anyone that you think may need it.
Chris Harper
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by kacz on March 4, 2007
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Perhaps it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have a disclaimer at the top of the classifieds page that states anyone can post here including con artists. It is up to the potential buyer to research and confirm the sources’ integrity. There are a lot of trusting people out there that have never been ripped-off. You’d hate to have their first experience prompted by something on this site. While “buyer beware” (caveat emptor) is correct, so was P.T. Barnum when he noted that there was a sucker born every minute!
Paul M. Kaczmarczik
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by Rob_Carmichael on March 5, 2007
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It really blows my mind at how many people are so naive as to send money to a person that they don't even know....the are primed for the picking. When our facility is purchasing an animal from someone we haven't done business with in the past, we require the following:
- REAL name of a person we are doing business with
- physical address of the facility with phone number
- 3 references including a name/number representing an accredited or known zoo, museum, nature center, or wildlife preserve.
- a name/number of a vet who can vouch for the health of the animals.
- copies of state permits
- 3 references from customers that have done business with them. These customers are closely screened to ensure that a "team con man" approach isn't taking place.
- completed W-9 Form (we are a dept of a city government so this is a state law required of us when cutting checks to vendors....this is probably our best "sifting out of con artists" that we have)
Although I don't find these background checks that demanding, MOST outfits that we request this information from do NOT provide it to us. That just makes my job easier as I can eliminate another prospective vendor to do business with. As an active member of AZA I am oftentimes asked to give referrals for these very same outfits and all I can say is that they missed a great opportunity to build their business (but must either be involved with illegal activities, or have prior run-ins with the law, or, are just plain business-stupid).
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
Lake Forest, IL
www.thegrassisrattling.com
www.robcarmichaelreptiles.com
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