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Venomous laws in Nevada?
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by taipan9 on March 22, 2007
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OK, I'm getting conflicting information here....I can't find any concise answers and hope some of you may be able to clarify this for me.
When I first moved to Nevada from Virginia, I was very disappointed to find out that Nevada has some of the most strict exotic animal laws around, whereas the conservative commonwealth of Virgina only restricted one species (Boiga Irregularus, oddly enough...)
Now I am an avid fan of herps and I enjoy keeping some hot herps as well; however, I was under the impression that I couldn't have them here without special permits that are usually only issued to educational facilities.... So I got rid of everything. Someone at Petsmart told me that we could not even keep any indigenous species, even if they're non-venomous...which sucked because I planned on collecting a few specimens on one of my many outings to the desert. (I guess that's my fault for thinking someone at Petsmart had any clue what the hell they were talking about- this is the same place that throws chameleons in 10 gallon aquariums with nothing but a food bowl, a water bowl and a hot rock [something I complained about until they finally put them in a more suitable environment for such species...)
Anyway, I ran across an albino C. Atrox at a local exotic shop and inquired about the possibility of the laws having been changed....she said no, there is simply a loophole of sorts that doesn't cover irregularly patterned or colored specimens, thereby making it legal to sell/buy albinos or other color morphs/abnormalities....this piqued my interest but I found that even with the loophole, no reputable seller will ship a hot to NV....I am definitely not spending $400 on an albino Atrox, when I could purchase an albino Naja for $120....I'd prefer the naja anyway.
My second trip to the shop, I spoke to the owner, who told me that loophole simply referred to the buying/selling of albinos- they still had to be native to own without a premit....he later explained to me that native hots could be kept without a permit, non-native species required a permit....and only native irregularly patterned/colored species could be sold/bought legally....he said if I were to catch a native species (atrox, scutellatus, etc...) I could keep it without the permits....this conflicts with what I have been told in the past and although I think this guy knows his shit- I cannot find anything online anywhere that offers some straight answers...
I want to keep some hot herps, but I want them to be legal as well....does anyone have any info for me? Or can you direct me to where I need to inquire? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!
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by Cro on March 22, 2007
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Thomas, the only way to know for sure is to contact the folks in your state who inforce the wildlife laws.
Go to: http://www.ndow.org/law/licenses/
and read over the information there, then, once you are familiar with the regulations, give them a call on the telephone or meet with them in person.
Then, get anything they tell you IN WRITING, on DNR Letterhead. And apply for the permits if needed.
Then get your animals.
Relying on some nitwhit at petsmart for legal advise on reptile keeping is only going to get you into trouble.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by taipan9 on March 23, 2007
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I've sent those bastards many emails and they never get back to me, I also sent a letter through snail mail....still, nothing. I'll try calling them... thanks!
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by Cro on March 23, 2007
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Call them, or show up on their door step !
But, make an appointment first, LOL !
You will find that the great majority of Game and Fish folks are good guys, and are just inforcing the laws that the State Legislatures wrote.
Take the time to get to know them. Go meet with them in person. Talk with them about the Laws and how you can get permits. While knowing your local game warden is important, it is far more important to know his boss, LOL! The guy who heads up the permit section.
Most likely, you will find Game and Fish folks to be very professional, and willing to help, if you are willing to go through the beurocratic mess that they have to work with.
Remember, they did not write the laws! They are enforcing laws because that is their job. You should not view them as some kind of enemy. For every law on the books, there is a way to be exempt from that law, although it might not be easy, and might require work on your part in getting a permit!
EMail is a rather im-personal thing, and you dont know how many people it goes through, or if it reaches the right person.
Find out who is in charge of the special permits section, or non-game wildlife section, or what ever they call it in your state, and then set up an appointment to meet them.
You have a much greater chance of getting the right information that way, and perhaps making a new friend.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by taipan9 on March 23, 2007
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I've thought of that, but I believe they're located up in Carson city or Reno....between work and school, I wouldn't be able to make a weekend trip like that... I'll have to get one of them on the phone and find out what the deal is, just a simple yes or no would suffice for my needs...I just can't seem to get any response whatsoever... thanks for your continued input!
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by MoccasinMan on March 23, 2007
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Nevada State Laws Governing Private Possession of Exotic Animals
View Map• NEV. ADMIN. CODE ch. 503, §110 - Restrictions on importation, transportation and possession of certain species.
1. Except as otherwise provided in this section and NAC 504.486, the importation, transportation or possession of the following species of live wildlife or hybrids thereof, including viable embryos or gametes, is prohibited:
(a) Fish:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Lampreys All species in the family Petromyzontidae
(2) Freshwater stingray All species in the family Potamotrygonidae
(3) Freshwater shark All species in the genus Carcharhinus
(4) Bowfin Amia calva
(5) Gars All species in the family Lepisosteidae
(6) Herring and shad, except threadfin shad All species in the family Clupeidae, except Dorosoma petenense
(7) European Whitefish All species in the genus Leuciscus
(8) Mexican banded tetra Astyanax mexicanus
(9) Piranhas All species in the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Teddyella, Rooseveltiella and Pygopristis
(10) South American Parasitic Catfish All species in the family Cetoposidae and Trichomycteridae
(11) White perch Morone americana
(12) Freshwater drum Aplodinotus grunniens
(13) Grass carp, except certified triploids as authorized by a special permit Ctenopharyngodon idella
(14) Pike top minnow Belonesox belizanus
(15) Snakehead All species in the genera Ophicephalus and Channa
(16) Walking catfish All species in the genera Clarias, Heteropneustes and Dinotopterus
(17) Tiger fish Hoplias malabaricus
(18) Sticklebacks All species in the genera Apeltes, Eucalia, Gasterosteus and Pungitius
(19) Tilapia All species in the genera Tilapia and Sarotherodon
(20) Nile perch All species in the genera Lates and Luciolates
(21) Goldeye All species in the genus Hiodon
(22) Carp:
(I) Bighead Hypophthalmichthys nobilis
(II) Black (snail) Mylopharyngodon pisceus
(III) Crucian Carassius carassiuss
(IV) Indian Catla catla, Cirrhina mrigala and Labeo rohita
(V) Silver Hypophthalmichthys molitrix
(23) Rudd Scardinius erythrophthalmus
(b) Reptiles:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Alligators and caimans All species in the family Alligatoridae
(2) Crocodiles All species in the family Crocodylidae
(3) Gharial (gavial) All species in the family Gavialidae
(4) Bird snake All species in the genus Thelotornis
(5) Boomslang Dispholidus typus
(6) Keelbacks All species in the genus Rhabdophis
(7) Burrowing Asps All species in the family Atractaspidae
(8) Coral snakes, cobras, kraits, mambas and Australian elapids All species in the family Elapidae, except species in the subfamily Hydrophiinae
(9) Pit vipers and true vipers, except species indigenous to Nevada All species in the family Viperidae, except species indigenous to Nevada
(10) Snapping Turtles All species in the family Chelydridae
(c) Amphibians:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Clawed frogs All species in the genus Xenopus
(2) Giant or marine toads Bufo horribilis, Bufo marinus and Bufo paracnemis
(d) Mammals:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Wild Dogs or Dhole Cuon alpinus
(2) Raccoon Dog Nyctereutes procyonoides
(3) Mongooses and Meerkats All species in the genera Atilax, Cynictis, Helogale, Mungos, Suricate,Ichneumia and Herpestes
(4) Wild European Rabbit Oryctolagus cuniculus
(5) Multimammate Rat or Mouse All species in the genus Mastomys (=Praomys)
(6) Bats All species in the order Chiroptera
(7) Nutria Myocastor coypus
(8) Coyote Canis latrans
(9) Foxes All species in the genera Vulpes, Fennecus, Urocyon, Alopex, Lycalopex and Pseudalopex
(10) Raccoon Procyon lotor
(11) Skunk All species in the genera Spilogale, Mephitis and Conepatus
(12) Wild pigs and hogs All species in the family Suidae, except domestic breeds of Sus scrofa
(13) Axis deer Cervus (=Axis) axis, C. porcinus, C. kuhli and C. calamianesis
(14) Red deer, elk and wapiti All subspecies of Cervus elaphus, except those members of C. Elaphus nelsoni which are alternative livestock, as that term is defined in NRS 501.003
(15) Rusa deer Cervus timorensis
(16) Sambar deer Cervus unicolor
(17) Sika deer Cervus nippon
(18) Roe deer Capreolus capreolus and C. pygarus
(19) White-tailed deer Odocoilus virginianus
(20) Moose Alces alces
(21) Reedbucks All species in the genus Redunca
(22) Oryx and Gemsbok All species in the genus Oryx
(23) Addax Addax nasomaculatus
(24) Blesbok, Topi and Bontebok All species in the genus Damaliscus
(25) Hartebeests All species in the genera Alcelaphus and Sigmoceros
(26) Wildebeest and Gnus All species in the genus Connochaetes
(27) Chamois Rubicapra rubicapra and R. pyrenaica
(28) Tahr All species in the genus Hemitragus
(29) Ibex, Wild Goats, Tur and Markhor All species in the genus Capra, except domestic goats, Capra hircus
(30) Barbary (Aoudad) Sheep Ammotragus lervia
(31) Mouflon sheep, Urial, Bighorn and Argali All species in the genus Ovis, except domestic sheep, Ovis aries
(e) Birds:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Pink Starling or Rosy Pastor Sturnus roseus
(2) Red-billed Dioch Quelea quelea
(3) Red-whiskered Bul-bul Pycnonotus jososus
(f) Crustaceans:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) Asiatic mitten crab Eriocheir sinensis
(2) Crayfish All species in the families Parastacidae, ambaridae and Astacidae, except Procambarus clarkii, Orconectes causii and indigenous species of the genus Pacifastacus
(g) Mollusks:
Common Name Scientific Classification
(1) African giant snail Achatina fulica
(2) Zebra mussel Dreissena polymorpha
2. The office in Reno and each regional office of the division will maintain a physical description and picture of each species listed in this section when reasonably available.
3. The division may issue a permit or license for the importation, transportation or possession of a species listed in this section only to:
(a) A zoo or aquarium which is an accredited institutional member of the American Association of Zoological Parks and Aquariums.
(b) A person who displays, exhibits or uses the species for entertainment or commercial photography, such as motion pictures, still photography or television, if the species:
(1) Is accompanied by evidence of lawful possession;
(2) Is not in this state for more than 90 days; and
(3) Is maintained under complete control and prohibited from coming into contact with members of the general public. If the person is displaying, exhibiting or using mammals for commercial purposes other than for food or fiber, he must possess the appropriate license issued by the United States Department of Agriculture.
(c) A college, university or governmental agency, for scientific or public health research.
(d) Any other scientific institution, as determined by the division, for research or medical necessity.
(e) Any person engaged in commercial aquaculture, upon application and proof to the division that the activity will not be detrimental to aquatic life, other wildlife or recreational uses. As a condition of the issuance to such a person of a license for the possession of a species listed in this section, a bond may be required to provide for the removal of any species to which the licenses applies that may escape or be released from captivity for any reason. The amount of the bond will be determined by the division after considering the degree of potential hazard to wildlife.
(f) A tax-exempt nonprofit organization that exhibits wildlife solely for educational or scientific purposes.
4. An interstate shipment of a species listed in this section may be transported through this state, without a permit or license issued by the division, if:
(a) The shipper or transporter has evidence of lawful possession of the species issued by the state or country where the species originated;
(b) Mammals, birds or fish are accompanied by a health certificate issued by the state or country where the species originated that indicates the destination, origin and proof of ownership of the species being transported;
(c) The species is in this state for less than 48 hours; and
(d) The species is not unloaded or otherwise released while being transported through this state.
5. This section does not apply to the division when it is conducting authorized introductions or transplantations of a native species of big game animal listed in this section.
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• NEV. ADMIN. CODE ch. 503, §140 - Species for which certain permits and licenses are not required: Specification; release; sale; exceptions.
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 4 and NAC 503.500 to 503.535, inclusive, the following animals may be possessed, transported, imported and exported without a permit or license issued by the division:
(a) Canaries;
(b) Toucans;
(c) Lovebirds;
(d) Nonindigenous house finches;
(e) Parakeets;
(f) Cockatiels;
(g) Mynah birds;
(h) Parrots;
(i) Hamsters;
(j) Domesticated races of rats and mice;
(k) Gerbils;
(l) Guinea pigs;
(m) Monkeys and other primates;
(n) Aquarium fish;
(o) Marsupials;
(p) Elephants;
(q) All felines, except mountain lions and bobcats;
(r) Wolves;
(s) Camels (Camelus spp.);
(t) European ferret (Mustela putorius);
(u) Llamas (Lama glama);
(v) American Bison;
(w) Marine mammals;
(x) Ostrich (Struthio spp.);
(y) Emus (Dromiceius spp.);
(z) Rheas (Rhea spp.);
(aa) Nonvenomous, nonindigenous reptile species and subspecies;
(bb) Albino forms of indigenous reptile species;
(cc) Alpaca (Lama pacos);
(dd) Guinea fowl (Numida meleagris);
(ee) Old World species of pheasants, partridges, quails, francolin, peafowl and jungle fowl (nonendemic species of the subfamily Phasianae), except:
(1) Chukar partridge;
(2) Hungarian (gray) partridge;
(3) Snow cock; and
(4) Ring-necked and white, winged pheasant;
(ff) Domesticated races of turkey (Meleagris gallopavo), distinguished morphologically from wild birds;
(gg) Domesticated races of ducks and geese (Anatidae), distinguished morphologically from wild birds;
(hh) Domesticated races of chinchillas;
(ii) Domesticated races of mink;
(jj) Waterfowl reared in captivity that are lawfully acquired pursuant to the regulations adopted by the United States Fish and Wildlife Service;
(kk) Those species of ducks, geese and swans not listed as protected pursuant to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, 16 U.S.C. §§ 703 et seq.;
(ll) Yak (Bos grunniens);
(mm) Cassowary;
(nn) Coturnix quail (Coturnix coturnix);
(oo) Zebra (Equus spp.);
(pp) Salt water fish, crustaceans and mollusks;
(qq) Nonindigenous species of amphibians, except:
(1) Bullfrogs (Rana catesbeiana); and
(2) Species listed in NAC 503.110;
(rr) African pygmy hedgehogs (Atelerix albiventris); and
(ss) California kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getulus californiae) that do not have between their head and vent a continuous pattern of bands or rings regardless of whether the bands or rings are opened or closed.
2. Species listed in this section must not be released into the wild, except as otherwise authorized by the division in writing.
3. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 4, lawfully acquired species listed in this section may be sold in Nevada.
4. This section does not authorize the sale, possession, transportation, importation or exportation of animals in violation of any applicable federal or state law, county or city ordinance, or any regulation adopted pursuant thereto.
5. As used in this section, "aquarium fish" includes all the species of fish, except the species listed in NAC 503.110, which are listed in H. Axelrod and W. Vorderwinkler, Encyclopedia of Tropical Fishes, 29th ed., 1988. A copy of that publication may be obtained from T.F.H. Publications, Inc., One T.F.H. Plaza, Neptune City, New Jersey 07753, for a price of $17.59.
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• NEV. ADMIN. CODE ch. 504, §488 - Possession of live animals under authority of permit or license held on February 28, 1994.
A person who, on February 28, 1994, holds any permit or license issued by the division that authorizes the possession of a live animal may, except as otherwise provided in the particular permit or license, continue to possess that animal and its progeny for the life of that animal and its progeny. The animal and its progeny:
1. Must not, if the animal is of a species listed in NAC 503.110, be released, sold, bartered, given away or traded within this state.
2. Must not, if the animal is not of a species listed in NAC 503.110, be:
(a) Released in this state without the prior written authorization of the division; or
(b) Sold, bartered, given away or traded within this state except:
(1) Pursuant to the conditions set forth in the permit or license under which the animal and its progeny are held; and
(2) To a person who holds a commercial or noncommercial license for the same species.
3. May be exported out of this state pursuant to applicable federal and state laws and any regulations adopted pursuant thereto.
Andrew
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by tigers9 on March 24, 2007
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NV wildlife department licenses boats, jet skis, hunting... and many captive animals, but unlike DMV, I never had to wait in line. They have locations in Henderson and Las Vegas.(see below)
My bobcat, since it is native, is licensed by NV wildlife and I never ever had a problem with them,
very srtaight forward caging requirements.
Zuzana
www.rexano.org
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NDOW Offices:
Contacts: http://ndow.org/about/contacts/
Headquarters / Western Region
Reno
1100 Valley Rd.
Reno, NV 89512
(775) 688-1500 Hours - 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday - Friday
Fallon
380 West B. St.
Fallon, NV 89406
(775) 423-3171
Southern Region
Las Vegas
4747 Vegas Dr.
Las Vegas, NV 89108
(702) 486-5127 Fax (702) 486-5133
Henderson
744 S. Racetrack Rd.
Henderson, NV 89015
(702) 486-6742
Eastern Region
Elko
60 Youth Center Road
Elko, NV 89801
(775) 777-2300
Winnemucca
815 E. Fourth St.
Winnemucca, NV 89445
(775) 623-6565
10 a.m. - 3 p.m.
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by MoccasinMan on March 24, 2007
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Hey Z- If I had your charms I'm sure I wouldn't be waiting in any lines either! Unfortunately I was not quite as blessed as you...lol!!
Taipan- I believe you have ALL the info you need... now it is just a matter of doing the work and jumping through the hoops. Like John said it pays to make friends with your state wildlife officials. They feel more comfortable and are much more responsive to someone they are familiar with. Don't make enemies by being demanding or rude. Good luck.
Andrew
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by troutlover1 on January 3, 2012
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The only venomous snakes allowed as pets in nevada are the ones indigenous to this state. Vipers and elapids are NOT allowed to be kept as pets.
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