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Elaphe o. obsoleta x Elaphe o. lindheimeri Range?
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by TheFifthDay on February 26, 2009
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Guess what! I think Spring is almost here in Oklahoma!
I'm sure happy about this.
This morning, as I was walking around on our 2.5 acres, I found an adult/sub-adult Elaphe obsoleta.
It's about 4-4.5 feet long, so it's neonate/juvinille pattern is gone..
I know that they can retain some of their pattern, and that that retained pattern can be a reddish tint. But this one looks a lot like a Elaphe obsoleta lindheimeri intergrade.
My question is: Does anyone know how far north the range of the Elaphe o. lindheimeri is?
I live in Tulsa, which is in Northeast Oklahoma.
It may just be a Elaphe o. obsoleta, but it looks EXACTLY like the texas/black rat snakes.
Thanks in advance for the advice,
Jon Short
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RE: Elaphe o. obsoleta x Elaphe o. lindheimeri Ran
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by MikeB on March 1, 2009
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I have found widely divergent patterns on black rats at different times on the same property . . . some with more visible patterns, some with less or almost none, all in central Oklahoma about 90 miles SW of you. Whilethe most common presentation of this species in Oklahoma seems to be the classic texas rat snake look, with fairly visible patterning even into adulthood, you just never know what yuo are going to run across. Always makes it interesting. A few years ago I rescued an adult Texas rat from a neighbor's yard, and last summer found a nearly identical smaller snake on my front porch. Then the year before a much darker one in another neighbor's guttering, all within about 100 yards.
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RE: Elaphe o. obsoleta x Elaphe o. lindheimeri Ran
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by TheFifthDay on March 1, 2009
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Yeah...
I figured out that the Texas rat/Black rat intergreades are in the West 1/3 of Oklahoma.
So what I've got is a Black rat for sure.
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