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Watch out for Venomous orders from Myrtle Bch, SC
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by MoccasinMan on April 4, 2009
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Don't fill orders from Myrtle Beach for Cobras or other highly venomous exotic snakes on line. A news station is trying to do a story on how easy it is to buy on line without any qualification except ability to pay. It's a set up that could bring much unneeded bad PR to our community.
Hopefully some fool has not fallen for it....
Andrew
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by tj on April 4, 2009
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"A news station is trying to do a story on how easy it is to buy on line without any qualification except ability to pay."
It's the truth, so what's the problem? Maybe they ought to go to one of the Hamburg shows, as well. It's been known for years that 90% of the dealers will sell to ANYONE, regardless of their little disclaimers they have on their websites and ads. Yet, they still seem to do it. I wouldn't lose any sleep if they tightened up restrictions on vendors. They won't do it, so someone else will.
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by pitbulllady on April 4, 2009
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The station is actually based in Florence, SC, though it broadcasts at the Grand Strand, too. I'm suspecting that someone in this area is preparing to push for exotic animal bans, like the ones written by API and HSUS, and they are looking for ammunition to use against people who own/sell/breed "dangerous" animals. We know that often, either right before or immediately after these bills are introduced, there are sudden reports of incidents with various exotic critters, like the reports of "cobras" in NC last year. It's not about vendors at shows, since those vendors don't even live where the bills are introduced in many cases, but about preventing people who DO live there from having a choice about what kind of animals they keep. If the Anti's can prove how easy it is for residents to obtain animals that many others consider dangerous, they can easily push through their legistlation by scaring other residents into thinking that if something isn't done, they'll be overrun with deadly animals in no time, so they will of course support such laws.
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by tj on April 4, 2009
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"It's not about vendors at shows, since those vendors don't even live where the bills are introduced in many cases."
Nor do they care where the bills are introduced. That's one of the problems. Vendors at certain shows can and will sell to ANYONE and not have to worry about it and can do the same online. ANYONE at any given time can buy a venomous snake or wild animal. So, where does the problem lie? In the past there has been several bites from exotic snakes to minors, as well as snakes being shipped to minors who live in a state where venomous are illegal....wasn't too many years ago a young kid had a russell's viper shipped to NY.
People like Andrew work their asses off to protect not only the keepers rights, but the vendors rights, as well. And what do they get in return? They get vendors who kick back and do nothing but make Andrew's and other's work more difficult by selling animals they shouldn't to people who shouldn't have them. Vendors have been a contributing factor for years, but seem to slide under the radar. At some point, certain dealers are going to have to man up, realize they are more of a problem than a solution, and take responsibility for what they do. It's only a matter of time until someone else does it for them if they don't. Then, you can bank on internet restrictions, show restrictions, and animals that can be shipped.
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by Cro on April 4, 2009
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"They get vendors who kick back and do nothing but make Andrew's and other's work more difficult by selling animals they shouldn't to people who shouldn't have them. Vendors have been a contributing factor for years, but seem to slide under the radar."
That is because to those vendors, it is all about the money they make, and not the welfare of the animals, or the safety of the purchasers.
There are plenty of excellent reptile vendors out there. Unfortunatly, all it takes is a few uncaring ones to ruin things for everyone.
Best Regards
John Z
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by earthguy on April 4, 2009
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That's a little too close to home. Does anybody have a name/station to attach to this? I'm not above calling them to give them our side of the story. Or blackmailing their boss (J/K on the latter)
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by tigers9 on April 7, 2009
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Just wondering, how does one gain venomous snake experience. I am learning reading here, but really, nobody ever showed me in person how to use tongs.
I just had to learn out of necessity of having rattlers go to or near my big cats and wolf dogs cages, so I learned how to remove them. Would that make me qualified if I wanted to become a keeper instead of just remover of venomous snakes? Or would I still be the idiot-one the station would ridicule?
Also, think about real life how many rather deadly things we can buy no experience necessary: boats, jet ski, snowmobile, dirt bikes, ATV, the list goes on.
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by earthguy on April 8, 2009
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Z,
Many dangerous activities have a minimums (age, training, experience). You have to be 16 to drive an ATV legally in some states for example. I certainly understand the point that you're trying to make...but we have to be very careful as a group. Our hobby is already under severe scrutiny, so a little self-policing would go a long way.
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by agkistrodude on April 8, 2009
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Z, the best way to learn and gain experience is through a mentor who can "show you the ropes". But many people, myself included learned as you are, through reading and doing it yourself.(when I started, Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet.LOL)I learned what I could watching TV shows like Wild Kingdom on Sunday evenings, and checking out every book I could find at the local library, and hanging out at Brookfield Zoo as often as I could. Here's a link to a good site that might give you some info your looking for.Stay safe and take care, Marty
http://www.snakegetters.com/demo/index.html
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