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RE: Pythons are coming to SC!
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by Adamanteus70 on June 18, 2009
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"The main problem with this discussion is that NOBODY here (as far as I know) has read the prospectus."
Where can we find it available for our reading?
As far as I know, this article was given to the newspapers to inform the public on what is going to be done, and when, where, and why.
Paul
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by AquaHerp on June 18, 2009
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To clarify something. No, USDA/APHIS does not cover reptiles. An institution's IACUC however covers every animal used in research...every one- regardless of the species. IACUC is tough, requiring a set of methodical protocols and procedures that must be examined, scrutinized and then agreed upon before any animal can be used or any new research can be undertaken. I had to write pages of protocols for simply incubating snake eggs. Don't assume it's open season to do whatever a person pleases without regard to animal well-being. Once again, and I find myself saying this a lot in this forum.... don't speak about things unless you have the full battery of information to levy an unbiased, fact driven statement.
DH
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by yoyoing on June 18, 2009
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Exactly. That is why, on the surface, this experiment seems so difficult to understand. I, for one, am stratching my head trying to find the compliance to the tenets laid down by such regulations. Knowing that such rules exist makes the sensationalized nature of this investigation even more confusing.
Seeing as this study was apparently brought to the popular press beforehand, I hope reactions such as mine were anticipated and planned for. Maybe a big surprize is in store.
My specific questions would be:
1. If lay hobbyists in SC have problems with winter, what is the rational that wild kept animals could fare better for scientists?
2. How is relocating animals to a new environment a reasonable model for natural migration?
3. How is the treatment of these animals justified on all the levels required?
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by BobH on June 18, 2009
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I have perused through this post and found most of the entries informative. I agree we have not seen the actual protocol. This study is in response to potential range maps put out by the USGS last year that showed the pythons being able to live essentially all over the southeast. These maps played a role in the recent legislation to ban almost all exotic herps. So the research people at SREL who have to bring in research bucks to stay alive and to feed their graduates students came up with this study. I am sure that it is well thought out. WhaT we don't know is what they are planning next after this one. One good study deserve another!! Personally I would much, much prefer to give them money to chase pythons than to GM and all the banks we are bailing out. In reality some of the money paid to graduate students out chasing pythons will also be used for their long term herp monitoring. They will log in, measure, weigh and probably mark every other herp they encounter. Give them more money!! This place is well known for growing great herpetologists.
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by theemojohnm on June 21, 2009
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"...a rapidly-growing population of Burmese pythons introduced into the Florida Everglades could migrate as far north as Maryland."
Hahaha! That one is TOO funny.
Take Care,
-John Mendrola.
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