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Snake Bags (for collecting)
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by thenewdisciple on July 2, 2009
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Do you use bags, or containers when collecting, or transporting snakes? Ive never liked putting a venomous snake is a cloth bag. It always seemed dangerous to me.
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by LarryDFishel on July 2, 2009
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I don't do any collecting, but for transporting venomous I double bag them in pillow cases then put the bags in wooden crates. I also use a home made bagger that I clip a pillow case to, so I can get the snake in without getting my hands near it.
For larger venomous (kings, large rattlesnakes), I have larger, sturdier bags I made myself.
This doesn't help you much for collecting, since the crates are too heavy to lug around.
I've seen some people carry a long walking stick, tie the bags to the end of the stick and carry it over the shoulder, which keeps the bags away from the body...
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by Cro on July 2, 2009
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Aaron, Snake Bags are one of the best ways to secure a snake, however, like any other "tool," you have to learn to use them correctly. That is where the Mentoring that often recommend here comes in.
I see far too many reptile keepers using snake bags that are far too small to safely tie a knot in, simply because they are too cheat to spend a extra 50 cents on a larger snake bag. And I see folks using pillow cases, which is also a bad choice, as those are usually made of thin cotton fabric, and are very weak. And, by the time they have been retired for snake bag use, they usually have weak seams and weak spots that a strong snake can poke a hole through.
It is much better to use stout muslin bags, that are stitched with daycron thread. They are much, much stronger than old, worn out pillow cases. These bags are specifically made for use with snakes. You can also use large flour sacks, or, even used canvas "money" bags that you can sometimes talk your local bank out of.
It is fairly easy to take a old tennis racket, and strip out the strings, then use it to hold a snake bag in the open position. You can make a similar bag holder from a old fish net that the net has been removed from. The bag can be attached by duct tape, or clothes hanger clips, or surgical rubber band.
No need to buy the expensive triangle shaped bagging systems that are available, as the home made works just as well, or better, and costs a lot less.
If you purchase new snake bags, make sure you wash them a few times with fabric softner. This will help make them softer, and less likely to abrade a snakes nose.
Also, because snakes can readilly bite through a bag, the snake bag should always be placed in a wood, cardboard, or plastic travel box of some sort.
Best Regards
John Z
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by agkistrodude on July 2, 2009
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Hey John, I looked at one of those expensive, triangle shaped bagging systems, and took an old golf club and some steel 1/4 inch rod and made one. My total cost was about 6 bucks.Looks like the real deal, works great and I've been using it for years. Take care, Marty
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by agkistrodude on July 2, 2009
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To the original question, I like bags, but also put them in a container of some kind so you don't get a fang through the fabric. But I don't tie my bags, I find the knots too cumbersome. I use those plastic "zip ties" on the bag and carry a small pair of wire cutters to take them off. Take care, Marty
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by Adamanteus70 on July 3, 2009
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I use bags that I make myself. I use a setting on the sewing machine (yes I sew myself) that creates a zig zag like stitch very tight in pattern and I stitch the corners so I have a large corner to hold with my fingers when I empty the bag with the snake in it.
For venomous snakes I use a fish net frame like John recommends, with the net cut out of it. It is aluminum and easily toted in the field. I found small clamps at the hardware store that are very strong, they use them to hold things in place while glueing and such. That is what I use to hold the bag onto the metal frame. By making my own bags I make them longer so that after bagging I can then twist the neck of the bag safely while still attached to the frame.
A secure slip knot is then used to secure the bag.
I am thinking about making these bags for sale, and selling them at shows. What do you all think? Would you purchase home made bags at shows, or would you just purchase them from commercial companies?
Good topic, with great replies so far.
Paul
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by AquaHerp on July 3, 2009
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I use bags, specially sewn. I also often use a 5 gallon bucket with the screw on lids. I love these for transport. Midwest seels a nice one.
DH
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by Cro on July 3, 2009
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"I am thinking about making these bags for sale, and selling them at shows."
Paul, I would say give it a try. The large commercial snake bags that I sell at shows are not long enough to tie a good knot in, and as far as I know, no one makes bags like that anymore.
I also have a sewing machine, and have though about making snake bags to sell. However, I just do not have the time.
I would suggest that you construct a few dozen of the bags you are talking about, and try selling them at the shows, and see if they sell or not. If they do not sell, at least you will have a bunch of quality snake bags...........
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by CSdeadboy2009 on July 4, 2009
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I put all my collected snakes in old pillow cases and then it to a 5 gallon poly drum with a locking lid. I drill holes in the top and sides so air can move threw. It is nice and slim and is not heavy. You can strap it right to your bicycle or back and Carry it around all day. They are cheap to, and most times you can get them for free.
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