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Tongs vs. Snake Hooks
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by Kahlest on July 7, 2001
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Hello,
I have traditionally removed small, nonvenomous snakes from homes and yards around my neighborhood in PA. I have gotten many "Water Moccasins" and "Copperheads" that usually turn out to be garters and water snakes, and have used my hands or snake hooks. However, recently I caught a fleeting glimpse of what I believe to be a fairly large Copperhead. I am now wondering whether to use tongs or snake hooks on it, as I have heard that tongs can hurt the snake, but are also safer in some removals.
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~Kahlest
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by Naja_oxiana on July 7, 2001
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I would think that with a standard 40" hook you should be relativly safe. I'll agree with Chris on this, if you must use tongs, use the GGs from Midwest. It's a pity that Venom101 is down, else I'd recomend reading the review of the product there. These tongs make it pretty hard to hurt the snake.
On to something just as important, though. How are you actually bagging the snake? Do you have one of the bagger tools or do you do it the old fashioned way, which for an Aggie should work just as well, and user a bucket/pillowcase? Or do you put it in some kind of trapbox?
Cheers
Roger
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by Kahlest on July 7, 2001
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Hello again,
Generally, if I have to bag a snake, I just use a pillowcase modified for extra strength. Are these "bagging systems" actually worth the money? I've never really looked into them because I've never had a use for them. I rarely have to transport a snake very much farther than out of the basement, and until now the only time I've ever handled a venomous snake was once at an acquaintance's house.
Thanks,
~Kahlest
"What's your favorite snake?"
"I would have to say the Monty Python."
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by filthy on July 8, 2001
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I've recently purchased Midwest's 'Pro-Bagger.' It don't get no better than this for snake removal. Scoot him into the bag, then pour him into the cooler. The bag is nylon and very deep. There's no way even the largest, native snake can get out. No hassle and no danger to my fingers.
It's colapsible feature makes it nice in that it takes up little room in the cab of my truck, where it and a 30 inch hook are perminant features (yeah, yeah, I know. 30 inches is too short a hook. But I prefer the shorter because I feel it gives me a little more control).
luck,
f
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Anonymous post on July 9, 2001
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In north america there is really no need for tongs. I am sure that will be debated over but it is my opnion. I only use tongs for the fastest of the elapids and only when they get naughty. You are in the need of a GOOD hook try furmont they make the best hooks they are light and dont bend. Also a five gallon bucket with a lid. A bucket works great for moving snakes a short distance and is easier than bagging. Their are no Moccasins in PA.
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by Marty1st on July 12, 2001
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small 'RUBBERMAID' type trashcans can be alot easier than a pillowcase. Just drop them in and snap on the lid.I like a 30 gal. size.Although they are too cumbersome if your out field herpin.But for someones backyard they're fine.
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by wise_werido on May 14, 2003
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I think that Water Moccasins are in PA. If i remember right, Jennings Enviromental Center (its about 1-1 1/2 hrs north of Pittsburgh.) has signs that say that Water Moccasins live in this area and to watch out for them. I think that i hear that they are one of the few poisonous snakes in PA. There is the Copperhead, the Water Moccasin, and i think that there is one more.
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