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by SerpenXotics on November 21, 2007
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man well put I really learned alot reading your story.the detail you went into about the symptoms was unreal. thanks for biting the bullet and telling us the story you wanted to keep under wraps.
Joe Lesh
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by Ptk on November 22, 2007
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Good story and a good reminder, but an unfortunate lesson. I wish you would have told more about what pre-empted the bite. Were you feeding? cage cleaning? misjudged strike range?
I am glad you ultimately got the help you needed and seem to be recovering.
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by Peter84Jenkins on November 22, 2007
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I was actually getting ready to pack her up and take her back to the den. The doors to her enclosure jammed…wouldn’t open more than four inches because cypress mulch got jammed in the track. I got complacent and thought the litter guard plus her distance from my hand would allow me to safely pick the offending mulch from the track. I was wrong! A vary dumb thing to do.
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by agkistrodude on November 24, 2007
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Thats exactly why I got rid of all my cages with sliding doors. Good article. Glad to hear your doing well. Take care, MartyM
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by krz on November 24, 2007
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Thanks for telling your story. Accidents happen. With that said. The surgery on the bite does not appear to be needed and will add to your recovery time and damage. Did the doctors measure pressures and if they did what were they? Surgery is rarely if ever needed to treat snakebite envenomations.
Hope your recovery goes well.
Jim Harrison
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by GREGLONGHURST on November 24, 2007
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Peter: That is a very well written article. I am of the same group as Jim in that I firmly believe that virtually all of the fasciotomies performed as snakebite treatment are unnecessary, but there is seldom much time to make that decision.
During my treatment for a bite from an A. piscivorus, I refused a fasciotomy firmly enough that the surgeon backed down & measured the compartmental pressure instead.
Surgery or not, I am really glad that you survived the bite. May you never have another.
~~Greg~~
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by Chris_Harper on November 24, 2007
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I phone consulted on this particular bite and explained the criteria for the fasciotomy (Strkyer intracompartmental pressure monitor >30m/Hg for 2hrs), and was told that the surgeon said "We won't be doing that."
Additionally, I was told by the ER doc that "He says he does these all the time for snakebites".
I eventually put them in touch with CroFab's Emergency number so they would quit wasting time, 87SerpDrug.
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by Peter84Jenkins on November 24, 2007
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Chris did talk to my physician about doing the stryker test but as Chris said he refused. The reason he gave me and my family is that it would have been “unnecessary pain” and as a hand surgeon he felt it was best not to do the stryker to avoid damaging some of the many nerves and tendons because the compartments in the hands are vary small. I would have refused a fasciotomy if I knew then what I do now. I was vary drowsy I kept falling asleep and my wife and mother felt that the doctor knew what he was doing. I am sure had Chris been there in person I may have gotten out of there without any scars. Chris did his best for me via the phone. My wife and mother were scared out of there wits but I have instructed them to be more verbally assertive if God forbid I ever endure another bite. Thanks for all of the positive comments I feel better now about putting my story out on the “table”. Stay safe.
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