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by frenchfry on January 14, 2008
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Dustin, well I can say that I understand your frustration about Indiana laws, as I too reside there. However, I must disagree with you in the way you decided to be "above the law." Just because you WANT to possess protected species does not mean the government NEEDS to let you. It does suck, BAD, but there are plenty of other interesting, beautiful and profitable herps avaliable that we Hoosiers are able to lawfully own. I understand that it may be extreme to some, but I know of a few individuals who opted to move to neighboring states in order to be able to keep species protected by Indiana. And please remember that the DNR is partially responsible for quite a few species of animals improvment in the wild, ex: American Alligator. The laws here are strict, but they do have their purpose. It will do no good to hold a grudge against them, their just trying to protect the animlas we all love so much. And yes, they do require money to do so, hence stings such as this one. I truly hope the best for you man. Good Luck!
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by Buzztail1 on January 14, 2008
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Sorry, Dustin, but this time you are flat out wrong.
If the law enforcement officer tells you FOUR TIMES that you can't do something and you decide to do it anyway? THAT DOES NOT DESERVE RESPECT!
What would I do, if some uppity DNR agent told me I couldn't keep some of the snakes I love? Well guess what! I don't keep them! Welcome to Georgia!
If I HAD TO HAVE them enough to break the law - then I would have to have them bad enough to move to Florida where it would be legal.
You cannot say that you are as respectable as the hundreds/thousands of keepers who are striving to do things within the limits of the law. You knew the law - didn't agree with the law - chose to break it anyway - and got caught.
Good luck with your case - but saying that you are the same as the rest of us is just not true.
R/
Karl
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by tj on January 15, 2008
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Dustin, the proof is in the pudding. Do a simple for your name here and you will see a post in the classified's for timber rattlesnakes THAT YOU POSTED.
It's hard to give you the benefit of the doubt and support you when it's blatantly obvious you knew what you were doing.
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by DustinDraper on January 16, 2008
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I tried to explain myself the best I could. I did everything I was supposed to do to get the permit. They still wouldnt doi it. It was up to snuff. no reason to be denied my permit.. the matter is we were both wrong.
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by bassteck76 on February 2, 2008
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One more reason why you dont do "buddy" deals with animals like this.
I hope all gets settled for you and the DNR. However this is a risk taken when dealing with any animal covered by law. Venomous or not. Venomous dealings always spark interest of officials do to the danger involved in keeping and/or transporting.
I personally havent read the official paperwork here so have no comment one side or another.....just get an attorney and do what you need to do to make this right.
Stuff like this is what gets the state and federal agencies all in an uproar and brings down issues for all involved in any animal dealings.
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by bigjon122584 on February 3, 2008
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What Dustin hasn't made clear here is that he lives in Indiana where possesion of Venomous snakes of any kind is Illegal. I also am aware of a previous venomous snake conviction of his. He is by far the last person I would consider credible and I think it is a very bad idea for any one here to back him. People like Dustin who know the local laws and ignore them any way should be put in jail. This kind of behavior looks bad on the entire community and will eventually lead to a federal ban.
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by ExoticTails on February 3, 2008
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i live in Indiana but i do everything legal unlike others i want to keep hots but how do i get my permit? where do you guys apply?
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by CanadianSnakeMan on February 14, 2008
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Hey Dusatin, I hope this helps:
I don't quite know how the legal system is in the states, but I know that it is fairly similar to our system in Cnanda and the DNR screwed up for the following reasons
1. If the officer did in fact contact you first and, without you asking, offered to sell you the snakes, then that falls under 'entrappment'. this basically means that an officer of the law can not lead you into a criminal act. You must be the one with the intnet to commit the crime.
2. The warrant is a must-have (again, I'm not too sure how things work down there)
3. If this 'James' guy shows up in court and admits that you told him the next day not to ship the snakes, then that may look favourable on your part.
Things that may hurt your case are:
1. Prior convictions and refusal to apply for a permit
2. It doesn't matter whether you paid the guy or not, trafficking is trafficking and posession is posession regardless of the price (if any)
3. The fact that you are making public statements INCLUDING THE ONE ON THIS PAGE can be used against you in court. If anyone were to see your article and present it in a courtroom, it could be considered an admission of guilt and screw up any chance of getting a deal.
I wish you the best and I suggest you consult a lawyer and remove your article from this site!!
Good Luck
Luke H.
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