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by redpython on February 23, 2008
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The whole story is fishy. He illegally had the snakes, which were endangered, and he also had no permit, which he knew he needed as well. He is in the wrong 100% and he knows it, no reason to play dumb.
Buuuuttt, let me tell you what the saddest part about the timber rattlesnake and indiana is. They are an endangered species on the state level, that is suppose to have all this protection. And they do on some extent,they have protection from people like Dustin or those who want to collect and keep them. However, they have no protection from the morons that kill them intentionally.
I know of several instances last year were timbers were killed intentionally and ZERO punishment or fine took place.
Now this could be the biggest in-justice of all, and not to people like Dustin, but to the timber rattlesnake. The state of indiana can do all of it's studies it wants, and it can arrest all of the people like dustin out there, but until the state grows some balls and punishes the people who needlessly kill these animals, i am not sure what the point of prosecuting anyone for illegally posessing these is.
Dustin, you were in a position that could really make a difference for the timber rattlesnake. Unfortanately it has turned into a circus and the rattlesnake has become a novelty.
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by Crazywolf on March 2, 2008
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boomslangandrew, i dont see my comment anywhere, not quite sure why you were able to see it but im not (its my first comment on this site)
thank you for replying.
i mean what legally on paper makes them endangered? and is it just in certain states?
i have quite a few friends in the southeast who find them in the wild or have some they keep.
but i mean if their so abundant in the wild, how are they endangered?
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by jtcbx on March 5, 2008
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I don't see my post either, nor do I see the answers to the questions that I had asked(?).
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by Chris_Harper on March 5, 2008
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I'm not sure which manager is deleting your posts, but when they see this they'll probably contact me and fill me in.
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by DustinDraper on March 9, 2008
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As I have said in the past how things went down, I stand by it. But what I am doing now is keeping nothing till it all gets settled. I love snakes as much as anybody does. I have lost hope for ever getting my permit here and I face the reality of my errors daily. I apologize to all of you for being a hypocrite by telling people to get thier permit when I should have done it myself as well. Granted that I had continuously attempted and failed. that is still NO excuse for my actions and EVER talking to that man regardless if they were for me or not. I will say that i am sorry to you all. and hope that you dont think of me as a bad person. I will get my permit elsewhere soon enough. and hope that some of you will do business with me in the future. I know that alot of people dont trust me now. this i hope to change later on in life. thank you all for listening. The case is going good so far i believe.
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by Mantafish on March 31, 2008
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Bottom line. If you live in Indiana like I do, you may be able to get a class three if your lucky. On the other hand I can go sky diving, smoke 20 packs a day, buy a terrior and let it kill kids in the neighborhood and even drive my car to work eveyday with a bunch of impared drivers that can kill me at any time. Yet the state fears these animals out of complete ignorance and therfore people that really understand and are fascinated with these animals will be forced to procure them illegially. WTG!!! for the state in its efforts to preserve civil liberties and act in our best intrest. I am going home tonight to get drunk and smoke a pack of cigs and then go driving down the interstate until someone hits me and kills me.
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by poorindianasap on April 15, 2008
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this is my first post and I would like to say that I understand your frustration with the Indiana DNR. I to tried to get my permit (I had over 20 vens in the mid 90s) and was in my 3rd month of going through the process, I had the dnr come to my house to inspect my cages, had to notify the neighbors, telling them exactly what I was going to have and why I was wanting to keep them. the dnr guy signed my paperwork for my cages, etc, you have to go through a waiting period after notifying the neighbors.I was under the impression that eveything was going fine, then I was notified that the neighbors objected and then i was told that we had to have a town meeting to discuss eveything. that would of took me into my 4th month of crap. then after all that I finally figured out that when I read the law to the letter, the last thing it says is that a permit will be granted at the discretion of the head of the DNR. so basically if they don't want you having them or the neigbors objest or whatever, your screwed. If the laws were written that said you had to do these five things and you did them that would be great but I live in a state that is run by idiots that make the laws so they can manipulate you any way they want. I can own 10 loaded guns in my house and in my car with no trigger locks and not put in a safe for my kids to not blow their heads off, but I can't own a pitviper in a locked cage in a locked room in my locked house without the governmment up my A@# Do me a favor and get off this poor guys case, the DNR in this state will hang you if they find out your a venomous lover like I am. I have first hand knowledge of how to get screwed in this state
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by demonic_smurf_1 on April 24, 2008
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This is easy if owning venomous reptiles isn't legal in Indiana then DON'T OWN THEM. if your field herping or what ever and you run across one admire it from afar and if the Crotalus horridus is endangered there is a reason that law is there. like i live in South Carolina from everything i have ever studied there supposed to be all around here but there not in the fifteen years i have snake hunted i have never seen one. so that tells me that
there endangered so if i saw one would i catch it no i wouldn't now if they was just ever where then yeah i might take one. And see it's people like that,that makes it hard on every one else and makes us all look bad as a whole!!! i mean i feel for you dude doing time isn't cool but you just didn't keep your nose clean.
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