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by Snake17 on October 18, 2004
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Hey, any of you feel like your bonding with your snake, for example when you you spray it with water and it`s practicly drinking from your hand or when you`re feeding it, handeling it, when you have direct I contact? Do you ever feel that that snake knows you, that it is an inteligent creature, a thinking, calculating creature? Have you ever observed your snake behave differently when it`s being handled by some one else as upose to when it`s handled by you? I don`t know, bonding with a mammall or bird is maybe to ordinary, to plain, bonding with a snake is special, way more interesting. Do you fell like you have a special relationship with some of your snakes ?
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by Crotalus_Catcher on October 18, 2004
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My ball python is like that. I've never had a snake I felt a connection w/, but she becomes active and alert when I come into my room, and when I take her out, she acts so content. I give her to other people while we sit on my bed and talk, and she'll leave them and crawl over to me and sit on my legs. Maybe it's because i'm hot, but yes, as dumb as it sounds, I feel a bond w/ my ball python that I've never had with any other reptile other than a green iguana i had a LONG time ago
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by Snake17 on October 18, 2004
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I also have a special relationship with my male iguana. I had 2 ball pythons but I didn`t have enough time to bond with them. I realy don`t think that this sounds stupid. My male NoseHorned Viper(V. a. ammodytes) is like that, only I realy don`t trust him enogh to let him crawl on me. He realy seems inteligent, and he sticks his nose against the glass whenever I`m infront of him, he kind of gives me a greatfull look when I feed him, like in recognition. I can`t wait to get my self a king cobra to realy see intelligence and maybe feeling and compasion or even rage in the eyes of a snake.
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by Joy on October 18, 2004
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OK, before anyone accuses me of being crazy, I KNOW my snake does not love me. They don’t wag their tails when you come home, and they do not have the higher brain function (or anatomy) of mammals.
But I do think certain animals can become familiar with a person and a routine. I have a 4 year old jungle carpet python (Morelia Spilota) that is familiar with me and to me. We have a routine. She is never fed in her home tank. I take her out and feed her in a plastic tank. I always have. Even when she is about to shed, she never offers to bite me when I maintain her home tank or take her out. She is familiar with this part of the routine. And I trust her after these years together.
She seems to be familiar with my scent, too. She is a low key animal, but she will “come back to me” when someone else attempts to hold her. And I have very cold hands! So I do believe it is a familiarity and comfort issue for her. Not just a thermal issue.
And she doesn’t seem to like it when other people get too close to her cage. She will put on a show if someone stands in front of the tank and talks to her. It’s the only time I have ever seen her rear into an “S” position outside of her feeding tank (she knows and she WAITS for that floppy mouse!). And yes, I do talk to her when I am working with her. It’s a habit I see no reason to break. She doesn’t seem to mind it.
Now as for venomous snakes, I do not think I would ever handle one enough to become comfortable with it and let down my guard.
I have spoken with an EDB owner that said his would follow him back and forth across its long tank like a dog when he was in the room with it, and rattle if anyone else entered the room. That does seem to be a common phenomena among rattle snake owners.
Does anyone consider that a sort of bonding.
Joy
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by Snake17 on October 18, 2004
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Yeh. I see that as bonding. That`s exactly the kind of thing I wanted to hear from you guys.
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by KINGRIUS on October 18, 2004
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My snakes definitely know me as their owner. I think my copperhead has taken a liking to me. He "trusts" me when I need to enter his enclosure and tend to his water and other necessities. He never shows any defensive behavior towards me. However when "strangers" enter the room he notices them immediately and gets under his hide box.
My cottonmouth. Hopefully he'll "learn to love me". But sometimes I think he'd love to sink his fangs into me. If he's out and I bring my hand up to the glass of his tank he'll come to it and follow my fingers. But I get the feeling he has mal intentions. Like he's looking for a clean shot at me. Hopefully he'll start trusting me. I've only had him for a couple of months.
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by Trex on October 18, 2004
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Reminds me of the story about a snake and a horse. The snake had to get across a fast moving river but couldn't do it on his own. The horse asked him if he could help and take him across on his back. The snake was overcome with joy as the two new friends made their way across the river. Just as they reached shore, the snake bit the horse on the neck, delivering a lethal does of venom. The horse looked at the snake and asked him, "Why?" The snake said sorry, it's just my nature.
Just becareful if you think you're bonding with a venomous snake. I know a guy who used to kiss his monocled cobra on the head, believing he was one with the snake. He doesn't do that any more.
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by Phobos on October 18, 2004
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Hi All:
Yes, All my snakes do have a personality of their own and do react differently to my presence than to others. In all fairness they don't get many visitor because I don't keep them to show others as a rule but do invite some to see them.
They seem to try to attract my attention when it's around the part of the week food it due to arrive. They will all congregate at the front of the cage and look out to see what's going on in the room. If they get less than they "think" they should have, they seem to be really pissy for a few day after feeding.
My Puff adder will slurp up water if I spray it on her and go from a defensive posture (head down and coils cocked) to a "relaxed" posture ( Head flat and coils relaxed. My horned adder (B. cauldalis) does the same but she is never as pissy at the Puff to start off with.
My Desert Horned Viper (C.cerastes) used to fly across the cage to get the food but now she gently takes the TV dinner off the forceps. My Sawscales (E. clarinatus), are actually very calm now. They are very curious and come over to see what I'm doing when cleaning, this sort of attention I don't need. However, they are really becomming a nice pair in my collection. The Cantil is very nervous and standoff-ish so I just give her space. My Gabby and I have a ritual we do every week. I drag her to the water bowl huffing & puffing but then when she gets there she figures out that I was giving her a drink and calms right down.
Just a few observations I've had maintaining my animals and yes, I do talk to them but seldom touch.
Best,
Al
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by Snake17 on October 18, 2004
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To Trex:
Don`t worry, I never freehandle or fooleshly handle my hots. I do sometimes tail it but using a hook to, never freehandled a V ammodytes in my life. Thanks for the concern though...:)
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by challenger on October 19, 2004
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Pardon my opinion but I think this thread is getting a bit off the wall. Certainly a reptile can develope a limited Pavlovian Responce as this is an instinct that nearly any earthly animal can be trained to tune in to. My problem is there seems to be a leaning that reptiles can or are in some way are being domesticated which is impossible-w-an animal-w-the brain function/capacity of a reptile. I am sure it is not the intention of the starter to prompt hot owners to train their deadly viper to be a lap snake but it is irresponsible to suggest you can own a hot and make it your "friend". They are uninteligent and live to eat much like a shark. Just my two cents for the sake of making sure we all stay safe.
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