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Shield nose cobra Toxicisity
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by TexasCobra on November 6, 2004
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Sry for posting so much but i am a very courious person. My frend is wanting me to get his shield nose cobras forom hem and he said he got told there venom is like a copperhead. I call BS but im not sure. Can anyone please let me know something on how toxic they really are. It would be gratly apriciated. And again sry for posting so many questions.
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James H.
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by Phobos on November 6, 2004
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Hi James:
I would not support his claim of like a "Copperhead" bite. Makes no sense to equate a Viperid bite to an Elapid bite. Not very much is know about it's venom but "moderate envenomation is possible and potentially lethal bite possible" is enough to tell me that it should be respected. Even more so since no A/V exsists for this Genus of snake.
Al
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by paleoherp on November 6, 2004
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a few case histories recorded mild neurological symptoms ( ptosis , slurred speech and partial paralysis) that persisted for 2-3 days , the effectiveness of antivenom in treatment of the bite is unknown ,
SHAUN.
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by JRHarrison on November 6, 2004
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The venom yield of this species is very small but the toxicity of its venom is in line with other neurotoxic snakes . It should be regarded as dangerous. Especially an abnormally large animal like some that maybe in captivity.
Jim Harrison
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by TAIPAN78 on November 10, 2004
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Does 28 inches count as an abnormal sized specimen??:-)
Ive got a rather large female that I wouldnt ever want chewing on me!
As for their venom, I havent seen it mentioned in this thread that they have indeed killed people. Granted it was probaly along the lines of the recorded lubricus fatality (small children)but still worthy of mentioning.
As Jim mentioned their venom is on par with other African elapids. I think BGF put them on par with N.mossimbica (spelling?)as far as toxcity is concerned.
Regarding symptoms, though the text books all indicate primarily neurotoxic effects, most of the bite cases I have researched from the private sector showed quite a bit of swelling! Some cases only stated a slight tingleing sensation close to the bite sight. I would imagine drooping eyelids, slurred speach, etc would only be present in severe cases.
I have worked with an adult pair of this sp for about 4 years now and still find it hard to belive that someone could recive an envenomation unless they were being extreamly careless!!! Last I heard of the case in FL the snake had escaped which would be a whole diferent matter (rolling over on one will result in a bite or steping on it).
God these snakes are cool!! I highly recomend any elapid keeper cionsider adding these to your collection. They are extreamly personalble, great feeders and stay a very manageable size. They are also about the cutest snakes I have ever seen! Their compressed, pug looking heads and gigantic bulldozer nose make me smile everytime I look at them.
All the best,
Jeremy
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