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by bush_viper17 on November 12, 2004
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Hi everyone, I would like to ship a venomous snake overseas to Alex in Romania. Probably a canebrake or a copperhead. How could I do that. What do I need to do to be able to ship. Or can anyone here ship it for me.
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Anonymous post on November 12, 2004
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Importing and Exporting internationally is a complex process. First and foremost, you want to be a verified shipper w/ Delta. This process cripples many hobbyists as it is. It's really quite easy. Call your local Delta Cargo representative and make an appointment for them to inspect your facilities. This requirement was born after the tragic days of 9/11. Airline officials want to confirm that you are, who you say you are. After the visit, fill out a few easy forms and you are verified.
Next, if your state requires any sort of wildlife permit you better get one first. The Application issued from the US Fish and Wildlife Service will ask for any required state issued wildlife information to be put on the application. Do not attempt to bypass this process. Shipping wildlife overseas is serious, strict business.
After you have obtained any required permit from local wildlife officials, you will need to contact the US FISH AND WILDLIFE for a packet and application. Fill out your application, in addition, select a designated port of entry to ship to and from. Designated ports of entry are isolated ports where customs officials review your paperwork and may inspect your shipment. Designated Ports of Entry into the United States are Los Angeles, Dallas, Miami, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Boston, Newark, New Orleans, Portland, Seattle and a few others. The initial application filing fee is $50. The information will be provided in more detail when you get your US FISH & WILDLIFE APPLICATION and Packet. If there isn't a designated Port of Entry close to you, you may selected an alternate port of entry called, a "Non-Designated Port of Entry". An additional $25 will be required to use a non-designated port. A few non-designated ports of entry are places like Tampa, El Paso, Houston, Buffalo, Blaine, San Diego, and others.
Once these needs are met, it's time to think about shipping. Currently Crotalus horridus ssp., and Agkistrodon contortrix do not enjoy any federal or international protected status. This will make shipping them alot easier and less time consuming. I strongly recommend contacting a broker at your port of choice. For a fee, this representative will assist you in managing your shipment. They may cost between $1-$200. A broker is strongly recommended for any shipment involving CITES species. So what are CITES species, you ask? CITES stands for the Convention of International Trade of Endangered Species. The doctrine applies restrictions to international trade of species, identified to be threatened or endangered. Organisms covered under CITES are subject to special licensing requirements authorizing their trade. Based on the urgency of the organism's status they are further divided into categories describing their status. Make a note of the following:
Appendix I - Organisms assigned Appendix I are on the verge of extinction. Their trade will only permitted under exceptional circumstances. Examples of Appendix I specimens are Indian Pythons (Python molurus molurus), American Crocodiles (Crocodylus acutus), and Radiated Tortoises(Geochelone radiata) to name a few. In addition, if you live in the United States and you wish to keep Appendix I species you will be required to hold a USDI PERMIT to legally possess one. Failure to hold a permit, while in possession of such an organism will land your ass in the slammer. The permit can be obtained by writing The United States Dept. of Interior (USDI) for an application packet. It's important to have your affairs strict when applying for this permit. Its fairly easy to obtain, but you must provide proof that you can care for specimens (photographs) into their adult age, and you are likely to be visited by a federal officer shortly after you file. The permit costs $25 a year.
Appendix II - Organisms listed under the 2nd Appendices are defined as those which may not be threatened to extinction, but those which are regulated to preserve their status. These organisms typically have quotas. Only so many may be collected and exported from their country of origin. You will see this eventually, if you become familiar w/ the process.
Appendix III - Organisms listed under the 3rd appendices are those which are described as enjoying protection in at least one country. Subscribers to the treaty are asked for their assistance in regulating the trade of listed specimens. Quotas may be assigned.
Just to give you a certain idea of how this process works. One time I was expecting some Chinese Cobras (Naja atra) to be imported from a zoo in Italy. N. atra enjoy CITES II protected status. I was completely legit, but the sender didn't apply for the additional permit to get permission to ship the animals. Needless to say, my atra were confiscated and destroyed in London, while my pallida (not on the list) were sent. Makes alot of sense. British Airways can be tough sometimes. It never pays to break the rules. Make sure your associate is following all the rules too.
Another time I remember an associate of mine recieved a Malaysian Shipment. The sender threw a bunch of sticks and leaves in the box as well as the reptiles. When the shipment arrived, US FISH AND WILDLIFE issued hefty fines for the flora sent (as plants are also covered) because they weren't identified on the invoices. It's serious stuff.
I won't even get into how dangerous it can be to send your hard earned dinero overseas. Know, that you know, that you know, that you can trust your source. Otherwise you may be quite out of pocket.
I like snakes,
-The Phantom
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by bush_viper17 on November 13, 2004
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Thank you anonymous. I wouldnt even think about shipping a protected species. Seems like alot of work but Ill try.
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by captiveherps on November 14, 2004
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I would use a different carrier, not delta, too much hassel. I have used KLM, Air Transat, Air Canada, Air China, and others. They change what they will ship from time to time so call and ask. It isnt worth shipping one snake by air, it costs way too much.
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Anonymous post on November 15, 2004
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Agreed. One should set aside a minimum of $500 for international shipments. Be prepared to pay more. I've never had to pay in excess, but I budget $1000 for the entire process.
-The Phantom
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