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identifying osage copperheads
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by thenewdisciple on February 25, 2005
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ive never been able to reliably differentiate osage coppperheads from northerns or southerns. anyone here have some insight?
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by bush_viper17 on February 25, 2005
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The latin name is Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster. I believe that phaeogaster means painted belly in latin. The osage copperheads belly looks like it has been painted a brownish,orange color.
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by sceniccityreptiles on February 25, 2005
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If you are identifying in the field, they will be in the north western part of the range. They will have the chestnut color of a northern, but will lack the spots between the hourglasses like the southern. Also, the hourglasses will be outlines in faint white, something like the bands on a transpecos
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by thenewdisciple on February 26, 2005
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no offense but i dont think that is a reliable way to identify them. in the field im sure you can identify them by range easily, but in captivity it would be hard. copperheads colors and patterns are so variable.
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Anonymous post on February 26, 2005
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that seems like a very reliable way. Chesnut color,faint white outlines,no spots, how much more specific can he get? Thats the only difference.
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by charlie1per on February 26, 2005
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It is a little hard to distinguish Agkistrodons sometimes....I finally bought the text.."Snakes of the Agkistrodon Complex" by Gloyd and Conant..if it ain't in there it ain"t an Agkistrodon
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by thenewdisciple on March 3, 2005
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im just saying its hard to id some agkistrodons. my experience is they are hard to tell apart when you dont know where they were found.
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by MSTT on March 3, 2005
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Osagescan be HIGHLY variable. I have seen adults pinker than the pinkest southerns. There bellies tend to be very patternless, and they lack spots but there is alot of area of Northern, southern , osage intergration. In my opinion look for Missouri specimens, they tend to be the truest of the ssp. otherwise it can be very difficult to tell them apart. good luck,
Jared watts
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