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by bush_viper17 on August 24, 2005
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The canebrake has received even more attention during the last two decades. Not just because of its zoological nomenclature, but also due to the interest in the composition of their venom. A number of studies now conclude that some canebrake venom also contains higher neurotoxic levels.* Many thought that this included the whole former subspecies, atricaudatus; however, a study by Glenn, Straight and Wolt (1994) determined that this phenomenon appears to be confined to two widely separate geographical locations. A western region, including portions of Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma, and an eastern region, which covers a strip from South Carolina, through east Georgia to north Florida. They have also found areas where the snakes had combinations of the two types. A canebrake victim from of one of these locales could be hit with a deadly "one-two" combination where both the circulatory and nervous systems were attacked. New serums are now being used to treat snakebite victims.
All of the above information was from http://www.littleriverresearch.org/Venom%20Research.htm
Can you all tell me everything you know about Crotalus horridus "atricaudatus" venom/its effects and treatment. I know that this is alot to ask, but Crotalus horridus is fairly common around my house and I have a big interest in that species... but I dont really "know enough to save my life" if anything went wrong and I received a bite. I know this topic has been run into the ground and alot of this has been discussed but I want to have a discussion focusing only on Crotalus horridus venom. Thanks.
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by bush_viper17 on August 24, 2005
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Also, does anyone know of any Crotalus horridus studies from individuals found in the North Georgia area? I would really like to know excatly what I am dealing with in my area. I have found alot of different color variations(Brown,grey,canebrake and recently yellow.)Im not sure if each of these individuals would have a different venom composition or not. One thing that made me more cautious around horridus is an incident where a girl died from a canebrake bite just up the road from my house. I know that I have caught specimins in the same general area where the bite took place. I have also noticed that the ones up here seldom rattle(The last one I found, I turned over the rock,hooked it and then looked at it for a few minutes and it didnt rattle once.)
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by bush_viper17 on August 24, 2005
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Im sorry but I have one more question. Does anyone know any steps I can take to make people more aware of rattlesnakes in my area. The area of concern is a popular attration close by. The mountain I live on is actually named after this place. I am just waiting on someone to take a bite. What really made me concerned is the kids that walk around this place. Last year 3 little boys around the age of 5 were walking on the stone wall. I told their parents to keep a close eye on them because I have found rattlesnakes around there. Anyway, they got attacked by bees and then they left with their parents. I walked about 15 feet in front of where they were standing and there laid a pretty good sized horridus just sunning on the rocks!! Add that to the fact that the ones up here dont rattle and that a girl died last year in the same general area. I would like to talk with DNR(the area of concern is a state park) and see if they can put up signs or something. That would be bad if someone was to take a bite and people started to kill the snakes. I know that they could get away with it if they killed a snake because I have literally been to that part of the park at least a thousand times and have never ran into DNR.
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by Cro on August 24, 2005
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Jeremy: As far as warning signs about rattlesnakes in State Parks, I have seen signs like that in several State Parks and roadside parks in Texas and Arizona. They were put up by the Parks and Wildlife folks. You might contact GA DNR at their Non Game Wildlife Department at Social Circle and suggest something like that being needed. Or talk with the local District Ranger in your area and tell him why you think they are needed. You can go to the DNR website and find a link to send them an Email. You also might try to interest some Boy Scout looking for an Eagle Scout Service Project to have the signs made and installing them with permission of the State Park. It is quite possible a local sign company would make the signs up for free for a Scout Project. Contact your local Scout Troop, or perhaps the District Office of BSA in your area and you discuss it with them.
I think warning signs are a good idea, as it might make some folks with kids more cautious in the area.
Good Luck with trying to reach someone who cares enough to make it happen. Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on August 24, 2005
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Jeremy: Here are links to some rattlesnake warning signs in use by other states. You might want to print them out and show them to the folks you are trying to contact with the idea. JohnZ
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15828
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15488&only=yes
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://members.cox.net/threelilkittens/route66pics/d004.010.04.26.02.jpg_small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://members.cox.net/threelilkittens/route66trip.htm&h=150&w=200&sz=5&tbnid=j_Q2-L-xkqcJ:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drattlesnake%2Bwarning%2Bsign%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
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